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From: Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>,
	Kuldeep Singh <kuldeep.singh@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: qce - Remove driver
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2026 10:02:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15904301-fd03-45e5-b909-dfce52449726@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260728152241.GA4281@quark>

On 7/28/26 5:22 PM, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 08:51:44AM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
>> It is consuming a lot of the community's time to help maintain,
>> including dealing with LLM-found bugs, with no clear benefit to anyone.
>> Even considering *just today* we can see someone sent a bug fix:
>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/20260724081537.191992-2-thorsten.blum@linux.dev/
> 
> Another example:
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/d5de5a55-eb35-4ad5-8d53-12e188e156cb@oss.qualcomm.com/
> 
>> It definitely *was* causing problems before it was disabled via the
>> crypto priority system (which made it unused in the kernel) and dropped
>> it from AF_ALG (which removed most of the unprivileged attack surface).
>> When anyone accidentally used it, it caused at least a huge performance
>> problem, and sometimes other problems too like filesystem hangs.  It was
>> an issue for years.
> 
> This actually seems to have been an overly-optimistic characterization!
> As per
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/d5de5a55-eb35-4ad5-8d53-12e188e156cb@oss.qualcomm.com/
> this driver drains the battery on every system with the module loaded,
> even when no crypto requests are actually sent to it.

Unfortunately removing it drains way more battery, because the buses
never hit sync_state and are kept at their maximum frequencies:

[   18.021823] qnoc-glymur interconnect-1: sync_state() pending due to 1dfa000.crypto
[   18.029605] qnoc-glymur 16e0000.interconnect: sync_state() pending due to 1dfa000.crypto

(it transiently also pins DRAM and friends to max-freq which absolutely
kills battery life)

I understand your concerns given the past handling of this driver,
however I believe the nuclear option comes with way too much fallout..

Konrad


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-29  8:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260724050645.223799-1-ebiggers@kernel.org>
2026-07-24  5:28 ` [PATCH] crypto: qce - Remove driver Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24  7:36   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24  8:41     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24  9:29       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24 14:14         ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-24 14:47           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24 15:04             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24 15:09               ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-24 15:25                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24 15:51                   ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-27 13:26                     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-28 15:30                       ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-28 15:22                     ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-29  8:02                       ` Konrad Dybcio [this message]
2026-07-29 14:55                         ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-29 16:55                           ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-29 17:18                             ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-29 12:02                       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-29 17:38                         ` Eric Biggers
     [not found] ` <amM22cX7KTqyOoOk@sumit-xelite>
2026-07-24 13:51   ` Eric Biggers

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