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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Sumit Garg <sumit.garg@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>,
	Kuldeep Singh <kuldeep.singh@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: qce - Remove driver
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2026 06:51:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260724135111.GA1876@sol> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <amM22cX7KTqyOoOk@sumit-xelite>

On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 03:26:41PM +0530, Sumit Garg wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> 
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2026 at 10:06:45PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > This obsolete driver was already marked as BROKEN.  However, keeping
> > BROKEN code around in the tree is unnecessary and causes problems.  It's
> > much better to just remove it entirely.  Let's do that.
> > 
> > Crypto acceleration remains well-supported on Qualcomm SoCs via the
> > Qualcomm Inline Crypto Engine and the ARMv8 Crypto Extensions, which are
> > what Linux actually uses in practice.  The obsolete QCE driver is a
> > dead-end approach.  It's extremely slow and just doesn't work well.
> 
> Not sure why only performance is seen as the major driver to drop crypto
> accelerators from kernel

Maybe you missed all the other reasons I gave too.

> while neglecting the security use-cases they support as well like:
> 
> - Support for hardware backed keys
> - Support for secure media playback use-cases

The QCE driver doesn't support these features.  So they aren't relevant
to this patch.

> I know it's not good to add functionality based on a prospective
> future use-cases but at the same time dropping functionality for it to be
> added again is just too much unnecessary churn.

This conflates current functionality, which doesn't meet upstream kernel
inclusion standards, with mostly-unrelated speculative future
functionality.  Anything new should just start from a clean slate with
just what is actually needed.

> I am sure you are aware about support for hardware backed key use-cases
> for many of those crypto accelerators. NXP CAAM engine is one such
> example.

The CAAM driver does register a "cbc(paes)" algorithm with the crypto
API (i.e., CBC-AES with a hardware backed key).  However, there's no
upstream user of that algorithm as far as I can tell.

But this is unrelated to this patch, which is for the QCE driver.

- Eric


      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-24 13:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20260724050645.223799-1-ebiggers@kernel.org>
2026-07-24  5:28 ` [PATCH] crypto: qce - Remove driver Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24  7:36   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24  8:41     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24  9:29       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24 14:14         ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-24 14:47           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24 15:04             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24 15:09               ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-24 15:25                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24 15:51                   ` Eric Biggers
     [not found] ` <amM22cX7KTqyOoOk@sumit-xelite>
2026-07-24 13:51   ` Eric Biggers [this message]

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