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From: Klaus Heinrich Kiwi <klausk@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
Cc: Linux Audit <linux-audit@redhat.com>, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [RFC] programmatic IDS routing
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:28:42 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1206095322.9069.40.camel@klausk.br.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803200953.33566.sgrubb@redhat.com>


> > So the admin would create the rule he wants, create a unique key and tell
> > the IDS what the key is and how it should react when it sees a record with
> > that key.
> 
> Yes. What I want to do is also say that if you create your unique key a 
> certain way, you get this additional benefit of realtime alerting or 
> correlation. if you choose not to, then its treated as any other event

I agree with Steve's compromise with speed, but maybe there's no way out
of using hashes or linked lists in the general case.

What if a message is important not only for the IDS plugin but also to a
fictional 'real-time compliance reporting' plugin - both wanting to use
the key field to carry special things, and in the same event:
type=USER_ACCT msg=... key=ids-file-high,sox-fault-med,actual_key

The plug-ins would need to check if their specific identifier is present
not only in the first 4 bytes, but after every comma.

If it's desirable to support the general case, instead of putting
everything in one single 'key' field, maybe having an index just like
execve arguments:
type=USER_ACCT msg=... key[0]=ids-file-high key[1]=sox-fault-med
key[2]=actual_key

Still need to iterate through all keys in the worst case, but the
plugins could individually chose between having the rules hardcoded (for
speed) or configurable.

 -Klaus
-- 
Klaus Heinrich Kiwi
Security Development - IBM Linux Technology Center

  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-21 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-19 17:02 [RFC] programmatic IDS routing Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 17:12 ` Linda Knippers
2008-03-19 17:40   ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 17:55     ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 18:18     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-03-19 18:54       ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 20:09         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-03-19 18:05 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-03-19 18:40   ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 19:04     ` Linda Knippers
2008-03-19 19:28       ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 19:48         ` Eric Paris
2008-03-19 20:48           ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 19:55         ` Linda Knippers
2008-03-19 21:01           ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 21:31             ` Linda Knippers
2008-03-19 21:41               ` Eric Paris
2008-03-19 22:42                 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 23:00                   ` Linda Knippers
2008-03-19 23:44                     ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-20 13:32                       ` Linda Knippers
2008-03-20 13:53                         ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-21 10:28                           ` Klaus Heinrich Kiwi [this message]
2008-03-21 12:50                             ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-21 14:14                               ` LC Bruzenak
2008-03-21 15:01                                 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-21 16:32                                   ` LC Bruzenak
2008-03-24 13:13                                   ` Klaus Heinrich Kiwi
2008-03-20 12:19               ` Steve Grubb

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