From: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: Linux Audit <linux-audit@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] programmatic IDS routing
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:54:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200803191454.16671.sgrubb@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <29287.1205950692@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 14:18:12 Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> However, *no* amount of special tagging will allow the IDS to disambiguate
> these two cases:
>
> 1) An audit rule was set, but no events generated because no activity
> matched.
In which case you have nothing to worry about. :)
> 2) An audit rule wasn't set at all.
Again nothing to worry about since they haven't set the system up yet.
> "unless you have a matching audit rule you will not get any records" means
> exactly that - so tagging the records you don't receive isn't useful.
But if you don't receive any records, nothing happened. :)
> There *is* the more general case of "I had a generic rule and a special
> watch and *both* fired" - but that problem is in no way IDS specific,
Right, this *is* something to worry about. I was thinking that we could solve
this by having an option that tells the kernel to evaluate all rules and not
just first match.
I have also been wondering about detecting shadowed rules and warning when
auditctl finishes a file.
-Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-03-19 18:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-03-19 17:02 [RFC] programmatic IDS routing Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 17:12 ` Linda Knippers
2008-03-19 17:40 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 17:55 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 18:18 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-03-19 18:54 ` Steve Grubb [this message]
2008-03-19 20:09 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-03-19 18:05 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-03-19 18:40 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 19:04 ` Linda Knippers
2008-03-19 19:28 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 19:48 ` Eric Paris
2008-03-19 20:48 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 19:55 ` Linda Knippers
2008-03-19 21:01 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 21:31 ` Linda Knippers
2008-03-19 21:41 ` Eric Paris
2008-03-19 22:42 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-19 23:00 ` Linda Knippers
2008-03-19 23:44 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-20 13:32 ` Linda Knippers
2008-03-20 13:53 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-21 10:28 ` Klaus Heinrich Kiwi
2008-03-21 12:50 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-21 14:14 ` LC Bruzenak
2008-03-21 15:01 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-21 16:32 ` LC Bruzenak
2008-03-24 13:13 ` Klaus Heinrich Kiwi
2008-03-20 12:19 ` Steve Grubb
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