From: Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
Bart Van Assche <Bart.VanAssche@wdc.com>,
"hch@lst.de" <hch@lst.de>,
"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
"martin.petersen@oracle.com" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
"hare@suse.de" <hare@suse.de>,
"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
"rjw@rjwysocki.net" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"jejb@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <jejb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"adrian.hunter@intel.com" <adrian.hunter@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V2 3/3] scsi_mq: enable runtime PM
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 08:41:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180719064124.fsi6au7x3vd2g7md@linux-x5ow.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1807181058440.31764-100000@netrider.rowland.org>
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 11:01:52AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2018, Johannes Thumshirn wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:12:37AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > As one extra reminder... People who care about extreme performance can
> > > perfectly well disable CONFIG_PM in their kernels. That should remove
> > > any overhead due to runtime PM.
> >
> > Yes but how likely is this for people who are running their data
> > center with a distribution kernel.
>
> Strictly speaking, that's a nonsense question. People who run
> distribution kernels are 100% unlikely to change the kernel
> configuration, by definition.
>
> That's not the point. If people really care about getting the utmost
> performance, to the extent that they resent the minimal overhead
> required for runtime PM, then they should not be running distribution
> kernels in the first place.
Can we agree to disagree here?
Some of the people I know in HPC, HFT, etc... run stock SLE/RHEL and
they do file bugs for every single 3-5% performance regression. This
is not something I made up, this is the kind of things I have to deal
with on my day job.
So long,
Johannes
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-19 6:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-13 8:05 [PATCH RFC V2 0/3] blk-mq: support runtime PM Ming Lei
2018-07-13 8:06 ` [PATCH RFC V2 1/3] block: put runtime PM code into common helpers Ming Lei
2018-07-17 13:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-13 8:06 ` [PATCH RFC V2 2/3] blk-mq: prepare for supporting runtime PM Ming Lei
2018-07-13 20:16 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-17 13:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-13 8:06 ` [PATCH RFC V2 3/3] scsi_mq: enable " Ming Lei
2018-07-17 13:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-17 15:30 ` Ming Lei
2018-07-17 15:34 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-07-17 15:38 ` Ming Lei
2018-07-17 19:50 ` hch
2018-07-17 20:54 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-17 21:49 ` Jens Axboe
2018-07-18 12:06 ` Ming Lei
2018-07-18 12:28 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-07-18 12:37 ` Ming Lei
2018-07-18 14:12 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-18 14:18 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-07-18 15:01 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-19 6:41 ` Johannes Thumshirn [this message]
2018-07-19 14:35 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-19 14:43 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-07-18 14:50 ` Jens Axboe
2018-07-18 18:46 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-18 23:08 ` Ming Lei
2018-07-18 12:43 ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-07-18 13:05 ` Ming Lei
2018-07-13 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC V2 0/3] blk-mq: support " Jens Axboe
2018-07-14 2:37 ` Ming Lei
2018-07-14 2:54 ` Jens Axboe
2018-07-16 16:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-07-16 16:03 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-07-17 1:12 ` Ming Lei
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