From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@wdc.com>,
Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V2 0/3] blk-mq: support runtime PM
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 20:54:35 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <27bc4ec8-dd63-2b6f-84ef-4c4c0fc7f9e9@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180714023740.GA8402@ming.t460p>
On 7/13/18 8:37 PM, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 08:21:09AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 7/13/18 2:05 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> Runtime PM is usually enabled for SCSI devices, and we are switching to
>>> SCSI_MQ recently, but runtime PM isn't supported yet by blk-mq, and
>>> people may complain that.
>>>
>>> This patch tries to support runtime PM for blk-mq. And one chanllenge is
>>> that it can be quite expensive to account the active in-flight IOs for
>>> figuring out when to mark the last busy. This patch simply marks busy
>>> after each non-PM IO is done, and this way is workable because:
>>>
>>> 1) pm_runtime_mark_last_busy() is very cheap
>>>
>>> 2) in-flight non-PM IO is checked in blk_pre_runtime_suspend(), so
>>> if there is any IO queued, the device will be prevented from being
>>> suspened.
>>>
>>> 3) Generally speaking, autosuspend_delay_ms is often big, and should
>>> be in unit of second, so it shouldn't be a big deal to check if queue
>>> is idle in blk_pre_runtime_suspend().
>>>
>>>
>>> V2:
>>> - re-organize code as suggested by Christoph
>>> - use seqlock to sync runtime PM and IO path
>>
>> See other mail on why this is not going to be acceptable.
>
> OK, I am thinking another idea for addressing this issue.
>
> We may introduce one logical admin(pm) request queue for each scsi_device,
> and this queue shares tag with IO queue, with NO_SCHED set, and always
> use atomic mode of the queue usage refcounter. Then we may send PM
> command to device after the IO queue is frozen.
>
> Also PREEMPT_ONLY can be removed too in this way.
>
> Even in future, all pass-through commands may be sent to this admin queue.
>
> If no one objects, I will cook patches towards this direction.
Yes, this seems like a fine idea. It's essentially the same as handling
the enter differently, but the abstraction is nicer.
--
Jens Axboe
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-14 2:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-13 8:05 [PATCH RFC V2 0/3] blk-mq: support runtime PM Ming Lei
2018-07-13 8:06 ` [PATCH RFC V2 1/3] block: put runtime PM code into common helpers Ming Lei
2018-07-17 13:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-13 8:06 ` [PATCH RFC V2 2/3] blk-mq: prepare for supporting runtime PM Ming Lei
2018-07-13 20:16 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-17 13:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-13 8:06 ` [PATCH RFC V2 3/3] scsi_mq: enable " Ming Lei
2018-07-17 13:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-17 15:30 ` Ming Lei
2018-07-17 15:34 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-07-17 15:38 ` Ming Lei
2018-07-17 19:50 ` hch
2018-07-17 20:54 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-17 21:49 ` Jens Axboe
2018-07-18 12:06 ` Ming Lei
2018-07-18 12:28 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-07-18 12:37 ` Ming Lei
2018-07-18 14:12 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-18 14:18 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-07-18 15:01 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-19 6:41 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-07-19 14:35 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-19 14:43 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-07-18 14:50 ` Jens Axboe
2018-07-18 18:46 ` Alan Stern
2018-07-18 23:08 ` Ming Lei
2018-07-18 12:43 ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-07-18 13:05 ` Ming Lei
2018-07-13 14:21 ` [PATCH RFC V2 0/3] blk-mq: support " Jens Axboe
2018-07-14 2:37 ` Ming Lei
2018-07-14 2:54 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2018-07-16 16:21 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-07-16 16:03 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-07-17 1:12 ` Ming Lei
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