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From: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
To: Mike Ramsey <MikeJRamsey@comcast.net>
Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Phoronix article slaming BTRFS
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:38:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090624173836.GR31415@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20090624T130012-322@post.gmane.org>

On Wed, Jun 24 2009, Mike Ramsey wrote:
> Jens Axboe <jens.axboe <at> oracle.com> writes:
> 
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 24 2009, Mike Ramsey wrote:
> > > Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw <at> ithnet.com> writes:
> [snip]
> > > Depends on who you talk to.
> > > 
> > > http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ocz-ssd-vertex-intel-solid-state,7127.html
> > > 
> > > "OCZ Says Its New Vertex SSD Beats Intel's X25-E"
> > 
> > Heh, the Vertex beating the X25-E? I think such a statement could only
> > come from OCZ. No amount of magic will suddenly make MLC beat SLC, let
> > alone a well tuned firmware like the X25-E's. I'm sure they concocted
> > some synthetic benchmark where the Vertex has some slight edge. In the
> > real world, the X25-E wipes the floor with the Vertex.
> > 
> > The Vertex is indeed a good performer, in its price range it's currently
> > the one to beat. I have doubts about the maturity of the product though,
> > looks mostly like a live beta being tested in the field. So I'd just be
> > careful with what kind of use they are put to. But just running tests on
> > the drive does show that it performs well for most things.
> > 
> 
> If I was buying for business than the Intel drives would be my choice.  
> They are clearly the quality leader.  For instance, Intel has tweaked 
> their firmware to optimize for small IOs.  The X25-E and X25-M are class.
> We agree here I think.
> 
> For home use where it is *my* money I am willing to have a little faith 
> in order to save a couple hundred dollars.  I realize that OCZ and its
> controller supplier will be shipping firmware updates.  But don't kid 
> yourself, so is Intel.

Of course they do, everything has bugs. What I'm worried about is the
severity of those bugs, and the amount and quality of testing that has
gone into these products.

> BTW, what OCZ did to increase speed was to increase the cache size in 
> their large capacity high end Vertex models.  This wouldn't help my 
> 30 GB model.

It's easy to throw cache at the problem and make it faster. That's like
shaving weight off a car. Might make it go faster, definitely wont make
it safer.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-24 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-23  2:51 Phoronix article slaming BTRFS Mike Ramsey
2009-06-23 10:13 ` Miguel F Mascarenhas Sousa Filipe
     [not found]   ` <2d23818a0906231026g6e4567fdv8eda3d6c4828ef4d@mail.gmail.com>
2009-06-23 17:28     ` Jaime sanchez
2009-06-24  1:27       ` Mike Ramsey
2009-06-24  2:20         ` Wil Reichert
2009-06-24  2:47           ` Mike Ramsey
2009-06-24  9:31             ` Bron Gondwana
2009-06-24 12:57               ` Mike Ramsey
2009-06-25  1:32                 ` Bron Gondwana
2009-06-23 14:41 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-23 14:53   ` Sander
2009-06-23 15:17     ` Chris Mason
2009-06-23 16:19   ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2009-06-23 16:30     ` Chris Mason
2009-06-24  2:20     ` Mike Ramsey
2009-06-24  8:20       ` Sander
2009-06-24  8:31       ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-24 13:11         ` Mike Ramsey
2009-06-24 17:38           ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2009-06-25  8:43             ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2009-06-23 17:30 ` Jaime sanchez
2009-06-23 17:44   ` nightrow
2009-06-23 18:27     ` Jaime sanchez

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