From: pg@btrfs.list.sabi.co.UK (Peter Grandi)
To: Linux fs Btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Unexpected raid1 behaviour
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2017 10:36:00 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <23095.39440.745253.138723@tree.ty.sabi.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <be7e5573-4247-89bd-00f0-7d84120ce582@oracle.com>
>> I haven't seen that, but I doubt that it is the radical
>> redesign of the multi-device layer of Btrfs that is needed to
>> give it operational semantics similar to those of MD RAID,
>> and that I have vaguely described previously.
> I agree that btrfs volume manager is incomplete in view of
> data center RAS requisites, there are couple of critical
> bugs and inconsistent design between raid profiles, but I
> doubt if it needs a radical redesign.
Well it needs a radical redesign because the original design was
based on an entirely consistent and logical concept that was
quite different from that required for sensible operations, and
then special-case case was added (and keeps being added) to
fix the consequences.
But I suspect that it does not need a radical *recoding*,
because most if not all of the needed code is already there.
All tha needs changing most likely is the member state-machine,
that's the bit that need a radical redesign, and it is a
relatively small part of the whole.
The closer the member state-machine design is to the MD RAID one
the better as it is a very workable, proven model.
Sometimes I suspect that the design needs to be changed to also
add a formal notion of "stripe" to the Btrfs internals, where a
"stripe" is a collection of chunks that are "related" (and
something like that is already part of the 'raid10' profile),
but I think that needs not be user-visible.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-18 10:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-16 19:50 Unexpected raid1 behaviour Dark Penguin
2017-12-17 11:58 ` Duncan
2017-12-17 15:48 ` Peter Grandi
2017-12-17 20:42 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-18 8:49 ` Anand Jain
2017-12-18 8:49 ` Anand Jain
2017-12-18 10:36 ` Peter Grandi [this message]
2017-12-18 12:10 ` Nikolay Borisov
2017-12-18 13:43 ` Anand Jain
2017-12-18 22:28 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-18 22:29 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-19 12:30 ` Adam Borowski
2017-12-19 12:54 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2017-12-19 12:59 ` Peter Grandi
2017-12-18 13:06 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-12-18 19:43 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-18 22:01 ` Peter Grandi
2017-12-19 12:46 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-12-19 12:25 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-12-19 14:46 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-19 16:35 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-12-19 17:56 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-19 19:47 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-19 21:17 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-20 0:08 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-23 4:08 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-23 5:23 ` Duncan
2017-12-20 16:53 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2017-12-20 16:57 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-12-20 20:02 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-20 20:07 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-20 20:14 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-12-21 1:34 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-21 11:49 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2017-12-19 20:11 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-12-19 21:58 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-20 13:10 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-12-19 23:53 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-20 13:12 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-12-19 18:31 ` George Mitchell
2017-12-19 20:28 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-19 19:35 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-19 20:41 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-19 20:47 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-12-19 22:23 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-20 13:33 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-12-20 17:28 ` Duncan
2017-12-21 11:44 ` Andrei Borzenkov
2017-12-21 12:27 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-12-22 16:05 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-22 21:04 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-23 2:52 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-23 5:40 ` Duncan
2017-12-19 23:59 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-20 8:34 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-20 8:51 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-20 19:49 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-18 5:11 ` Anand Jain
2017-12-18 1:20 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-18 13:31 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-12 12:26 ` Dark Penguin
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