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From: "Gjorgji Rosikopulos (Consultant)" <gjorgji.rosikopulos@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Bryan O'Donoghue <bod.linux@nxsw.ie>,
	Vladimir Zapolskiy <vladimir.zapolskiy@linaro.org>,
	Bryan O'Donoghue <bryan.odonoghue@linaro.org>,
	Atanas Filipov <atanas.filipov@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Cc: loic.poulain@oss.qualcomm.com, mchehab@kernel.org,
	robh@kernel.org, krzk+dt@kernel.org, conor+dt@kernel.org,
	andersson@kernel.org, konradybcio@kernel.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/5] Add Qualcomm JPEG V4L2 encoder for SM8250
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 14:20:25 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0426b129-5d03-467c-a61f-055e7dcf5654@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b5e573a-c13d-418c-af5b-759deb40bfab@nxsw.ie>


On 7/7/2026 2:13 PM, Bryan O'Donoghue wrote:
> On 07/07/2026 11:55, Gjorgji Rosikopulos (Consultant) wrote:
>> Hi Vladimir, Bryan,
>>
>> On 7/6/2026 3:00 PM, Vladimir Zapolskiy wrote:
>>> On 7/6/26 13:12, Bryan O'Donoghue wrote:
>>>> On 06/07/2026 08:11, Atanas Filipov wrote:
>>>>> Note: The handling of shared camera subsystem resources (power 
>>>>> domains,
>>>>> interconnects) for child IP blocks is still an open design question.
>>>>
>>>> Why ?
>>>>
>>>> A device needs to vote on its own interconnect and power-domains on 
>>>> any
>>>> bus. A sub-device of another device may wish to ramp a clock for
>>>> whatever reason.
>>>
>>> Certainly a CAMSS device will vote on all needed to it resources, 
>>> some of
>>> which are shared and got their description under CAMSS device tree 
>>> node.
>>>
>>>> There is no "master" device in this block of devices - save perhaps 
>>>> for
>>>> the CSID mux / wrappers on some of these parts.
>>>>
>>>> We have shared resources like camera noc, system noc and external
>>>> clocks.
>>>>
>>>> Please include power-domains and interconnects.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why? The common power domain and interconnects have already been
>>> described as resources of the parent CAMSS device, there is no need
>>> to duplicate descriptions in every child device tree node of CAMSS.
>>>
>> The initial patch and work for JPEG was as independent driver. I agree
>> from hw perspective it is
>>
>> part of CAMSS subsystem and maybe from design perspective proper way is
>> to be child node not of the CAMSS.
>>
>> However the resources shared by both can be abstracted in other
>> frameworks, example ICC voting allows to have shared
>>
>> clocks which can have policy to keep the higher rate and satisfy both of
>> the HW's.
>>
>> So maybe it need to be decided:
>>
>> Do we want really additional logic for handling CAMSS resource of the
>> CAMMS sub-devices by the CAMSS driver and create separate CAMSS API,s
>
> No, agreed.
>
>> or we can use existing fw's for that. ICC, clock, OPP which all allow
>> sharing of the resources. Also there are cases where CAMSS and
>>
>> is not needed but JPEG encoder is: Example RTSP streaming or UVC
>> streaming which require jpeg encoder.
>
> Yes.
>
>>
>> Anyways my opinion:
>>
>> 1. CAMSS is not prepared and not ready to handle child devices, only the
>> populate child nodes is not enough. I think it is little bit mess,
>>
>> some of the HW;s CSID, IFE etc are instantiated directly from CAMSS and
>> jpeg and Ope are described as child nodes.
>
> That's not the strategy.
>
> The strategy is gradual transition from monolith to bus.
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/d5407ab1-1af7-4678-ae67-5cf30ce8fa4b@kernel.org/ 
>
Sorry i have missed that. I understand now the direction which has been 
agreed on.
>
>
>> 2. Jpeg on its own currently does not have any dependency with CAMSS
>> driver code. It can use shared resources without issue and leave
>>
>> the ICC, clock and other frameworks to do the job.
>
> Yes as a fully self-described sub-node so that we can do 
> compat="camss-bus" with the minimal amount of additional churn on top.
>
> Make JPEG a distinct standlone node now, and you preclude the bus - 
> you have to make the argument to Krzysztof, Rob and Conor that "the 
> old binding was wrong but let me away with a change to it now"
>
> Not an argument I will be making ;)
>
> We should put the JPEG, OPE, ICP as sub-nodes of compat=camss so that 
> we can make
>
> camera-bus {
>     compat=camss
>     power-domains=<whatever is common>
>     csid {
>         compat=csid;
>     }
>     jpeg {
>         compat=jpeg;
>     }
> }
>
> a reality.
>
> Put jpeg at the same level as camera-bus and you basically preclude 
> that model.

Ok understood, lets wait for more review comments, and move to this 
model for the next patchset. Thanks for the clarification :-)

~Gjorgji


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-07 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-06  7:11 [PATCH v4 0/5] Add Qualcomm JPEG V4L2 encoder for SM8250 Atanas Filipov
2026-07-06  7:11 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] media: qcom: camss: Populate CAMSS child devices via DT Atanas Filipov
2026-07-06  7:23   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 12:09   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-06 12:27     ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 12:36       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-06 12:38         ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 12:41   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-08 22:30   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-09  7:45     ` Loic Poulain
2026-07-09 10:04       ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06  7:11 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] dt-bindings: media: qcom,sm8250-camss: allow JPEG encoder child node Atanas Filipov
2026-07-06  7:24   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 10:07   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 12:11   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-06  7:11 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] dt-bindings: media: qcom: Add JPEG encoder binding Atanas Filipov
2026-07-06  7:18   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 10:19   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 12:17   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-06  7:11 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] arm64: dts: qcom: sm8250: Add JPEG encoder node Atanas Filipov
2026-07-06  7:29   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06 12:18   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-06 12:45   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-06  7:11 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] media: qcom: jpeg: Add Qualcomm JPEG V4L2 encoder Atanas Filipov
2026-07-06  7:33   ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-06  7:46   ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-07 13:24     ` Gjorgji Rosikopulos (Consultant)
2026-07-07 13:32       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-07 13:47         ` Gjorgji Rosikopulos (Consultant)
2026-07-07 14:47           ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-07 14:51             ` Gjorgji Rosikopulos (Consultant)
2026-07-08  8:47       ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-08  9:32         ` Gjorgji Rosikopulos (Consultant)
2026-07-08 10:28           ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-08 11:35             ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-08 12:01               ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-08 15:44                 ` Gjorgji Rosikopulos (Consultant)
2026-07-08 16:25                   ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-06 10:21   ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 12:19   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-06 13:11   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-06 17:13   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2026-07-06 10:12 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] Add Qualcomm JPEG V4L2 encoder for SM8250 Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 12:00   ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-06 12:11     ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 13:02       ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-06 13:37         ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 13:57           ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-06 14:12             ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 14:35               ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-06 14:49                 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 15:00                   ` Vladimir Zapolskiy
2026-07-07  9:24           ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-07 10:00             ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-07 10:11               ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-07 10:41                 ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-08 12:19                   ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-08 21:21                     ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-09  5:41                       ` Gjorgji Rosikopulos (Consultant)
2026-07-09  7:33                       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-09 10:31                         ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-07 12:17               ` Gjorgji Rosikopulos (Consultant)
2026-07-07 10:55     ` Gjorgji Rosikopulos (Consultant)
2026-07-07 11:13       ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-07 11:20         ` Gjorgji Rosikopulos (Consultant) [this message]
2026-07-07 11:15       ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-07 13:22         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2026-07-07 15:49           ` Bryan O'Donoghue
2026-07-06 12:24 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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