From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 13/24] virt/steal_monitor: Add documentation
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 11:28:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260626092806.GL1181229@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260625124648.802832-14-sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
On Thu, Jun 25, 2026 at 06:16:37PM +0530, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
> +Core idea:
> +==========
> +steal time is an indication available today in Guest which shows contention
> +for underlying physical CPU. Use it as a hint in the guest to fold the
> +workload to a reduced set of vCPUs. When there is contention, steal time
> +will show up in all the guests. When each guest honors the hint and folds
> +the workload to a smaller set of vCPUs(Preferred CPUs), it reduces the
> +contention and thereby reduces vCPU preemption.
> +This is achieved without any cross-guest communication.
> +
> +Steal monitor driver effectively does:
> +
> +1. Periodically computes steal time across the system.
> +
> +2. If steal time is greater than high threshold, reduce the number of
> + preferred CPUs by 1 core. Ensure at least one core is left always.
> + This avoids running into extreme cases.
> +
> +3. If steal time is lower or equal to low threshold, increase the
> + number of preferred CPUs by 1 core. If preferred is same as active,
> + nothing to be done.
> +
> +4. Ensure preferred CPUs is always subset of active CPUs.
> + On feature disable it is same as active CPUs.
So this is very much a co-operative scheme. Perhaps add a few words to
describe the effect of a non cooperative guest. IIRC the result is not
worse than the status quo. That is, if one (or more) guests refuse to
co-operate it will not make things worse, it will just not result in
improvements, right?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-26 9:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-25 12:46 [PATCH v5 00/24] sched: Introduce cpu_preferred_mask and steal-driven vCPU backoff Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 01/24] sched/debug: Remove unused schedstats Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 02/24] sched/docs: Document cpu_preferred_mask and Preferred CPU concept Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 03/24] kconfig: Provide PREFERRED_CPU option Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 04/24] cpumask: Introduce cpu_preferred_mask Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-26 9:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-26 13:37 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-26 9:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-26 9:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-26 13:09 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-26 13:18 ` Yury Norov
2026-06-26 13:27 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-26 12:40 ` Yury Norov
2026-06-26 13:18 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 05/24] sysfs: Add preferred CPU file Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 06/24] sched/core: allow only preferred CPUs in is_cpu_allowed Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-26 13:06 ` Yury Norov
2026-06-26 13:25 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 07/24] sched/fair: Select preferred CPU at wakeup when possible Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-26 9:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-26 13:17 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 08/24] sched/fair: load balance only among preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 09/24] sched/fair: Pull the load on preferred CPU Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-26 10:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-06-26 13:35 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 10/24] sched/core: Keep tick on non-preferred CPUs until tasks are out Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 11/24] sched/core: Push current task from non preferred CPU Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 12/24] sched/debug: Add migration stats due to non preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 13/24] virt/steal_monitor: Add documentation Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 17:00 ` Randy Dunlap
2026-06-26 4:30 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-26 9:28 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2026-06-26 14:05 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 14/24] virt: Introduce steal monitor driver Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 15/24] virt/steal_monitor: Restore to active on module disable Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 16/24] virt/steal_monitor: Define steal_monitor structure Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 17/24] virt/steal_monitor: Add control knobs for handling steal values Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 18/24] virt/steal_monitor: Compute work at regular intervals Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 19/24] virt/steal_monitor: Provide default method to get systemwide steal time Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 20/24] virt/steal_monitor: Provide default method to inc/dec preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 21/24] virt/steal_monitor: Provide default method to get num of CPUs for steal ratio Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 22/24] virt/steal_monitor: Act on steal values at regular intervals Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 23/24] virt/steal_monitor: Add direction control Shrikanth Hegde
2026-06-25 12:46 ` [PATCH v5 24/24] virt/steal_monitor: Add design check of preferred subset of active Shrikanth Hegde
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