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From: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
To: Yury Norov <ynorov@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 17/23] virt/steal_monitor: Provide default method to get systemwide steal time
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2026 14:17:15 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8efa7a72-18c1-44b8-aaaf-80006a7c8fff@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <akgKfm_sSl_ZAXfT@yury>



On 7/4/26 12:46 AM, Yury Norov wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 01, 2026 at 07:46:48PM +0530, Shrikanth Hegde wrote:
>> steal monitor takes global view of steal time instead of individual
>> vCPU. For this collect overall steal values across all the vCPUs or
>> vCPUs of interest.
>>
>> Default implementation chooses steal time across all active CPUs.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>
>> ---
>> v5->v6:
>> - Add cpus_read_lock() for hotplug safety
>>
>>   drivers/virt/steal_monitor/Makefile   |  2 +-
>>   drivers/virt/steal_monitor/defaults.c | 28 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>   drivers/virt/steal_monitor/sm_core.h  |  3 +++
>>   3 files changed, 32 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>   create mode 100644 drivers/virt/steal_monitor/defaults.c
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/virt/steal_monitor/Makefile b/drivers/virt/steal_monitor/Makefile
>> index 24cee55342ce..7c16f8cf9583 100644
>> --- a/drivers/virt/steal_monitor/Makefile
>> +++ b/drivers/virt/steal_monitor/Makefile
>> @@ -11,4 +11,4 @@
>>   #
>>   obj-$(subst y,m,$(CONFIG_PREFERRED_CPU)) += steal_monitor.o
>>   
>> -steal_monitor-y := sm_core.o
>> +steal_monitor-y := sm_core.o defaults.o
>> diff --git a/drivers/virt/steal_monitor/defaults.c b/drivers/virt/steal_monitor/defaults.c
>> new file mode 100644
>> index 000000000000..6681f9938f6a
>> --- /dev/null
>> +++ b/drivers/virt/steal_monitor/defaults.c
>> @@ -0,0 +1,28 @@
>> +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only
>> +/*
>> + * Base file contains the default implementations.
>> + * These are defined as __weak so that arch may define
>> + * strong symbols to override.
> 
> But there's no arch doing that, right? It looks like overcomplication
> with no benefit.
> 
> There's just ~50 drivers defining weak symbols, so this is not a
> common practice. I think it would be much simpler for the arch people
> to simply write their own driver controlling cpu_preferred_mask,
> rather than tweaking your code.
> 

s390 folks asked for explicit hooks since they have some of the info
coming from HW w.r.t to vertical high/vertical low etc. So i have designed it that way.
(I know code is not there yet)

If each arch writes its own driver, wouldn't that lead to
- code duplication as each arch more or less may have to do same.
- each arch has to catch up any improvements that happens to default monitor.
- each arch has to honor design construct and not violate it.
- kconfig puzzles, to choose generic or arch specific ones etc.


If it makes sense,
- I can make it as strong symbols for now.
- when the arch specific implementations arrive, can make it as
   __weak to accommodate that.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-06  8:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-01 14:16 [PATCH v6 00/23] sched: Introduce cpu_preferred_mask and steal-driven vCPU backoff Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 01/23] sched/docs: Document cpu_preferred_mask and Preferred CPU concept Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 02/23] kconfig: Provide PREFERRED_CPU option Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 03/23] cpumask: Introduce cpu_preferred_mask Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 15:35   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-01 16:40     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 04/23] sysfs: Add preferred CPU file Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 05/23] sched/core: Try to use a preferred CPU in is_cpu_allowed Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 16:09   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-01 16:49     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-02  6:30       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 06/23] sched/fair: Load balance only among preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 16:19   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-01 16:41     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 07/23] sched/fair: Pull the load on preferred CPU Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 08/23] sched/core: Keep tick on non-preferred CPUs until tasks are out Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 09/23] sched/core: Push current task from non preferred CPU Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 16:50   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-01 17:03     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 10/23] sched/debug: Add migration stats due to non preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 11/23] virt/steal_monitor: Add documentation Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 12/23] virt: Introduce steal monitor driver Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-03 18:20   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-03 18:27     ` Yury Norov
2026-07-06  8:24       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-06 18:49         ` Yury Norov
2026-07-06  8:09     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 13/23] virt/steal_monitor: Restore to active on module disable Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 14/23] virt/steal_monitor: Define steal_monitor structure Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 15/23] virt/steal_monitor: Add control knobs for handling steal values Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-02  7:16   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 16/23] virt/steal_monitor: Compute work at regular intervals Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-03 18:14   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-06  8:38     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 17/23] virt/steal_monitor: Provide default method to get systemwide steal time Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-03 19:16   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-06  8:47     ` Shrikanth Hegde [this message]
2026-07-06 19:04       ` Yury Norov
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 18/23] virt/steal_monitor: Provide default method to inc/dec preferred CPUs Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-03 21:11   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-06  9:20     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 19/23] virt/steal_monitor: Provide default method to get num of CPUs for steal ratio Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-06 19:26   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 20/23] virt/steal_monitor: Act on steal values at regular intervals Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-02  7:18   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-06 20:33   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 21/23] virt/steal_monitor: Add direction control Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-06 20:36   ` Yury Norov
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 22/23] virt/steal_monitor: Add design check of preferred subset of active Shrikanth Hegde
2026-07-01 14:16 ` [PATCH v6 23/23] virt/steal_monitor: Optimise decrease_preferred_cpus when all CPUs are housekeeping Shrikanth Hegde

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