From: "Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] x86: Cleanups around slow_down_io()
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2025 07:36:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bff8626d-161e-4470-9cbd-7bbda6852ec3@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aT5vtaefuHwLVsqy@gmail.com>
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On 14.12.25 09:05, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com> wrote:
>
>> While looking at paravirt cleanups I stumbled over slow_down_io() and
>> the related REALLY_SLOW_IO define.
>>
>> Especially REALLY_SLOW_IO is a mess, which is proven by 2 completely
>> wrong use cases.
>>
>> Do several cleanups, resulting in a deletion of REALLY_SLOW_IO and the
>> io_delay() paravirt function hook.
>>
>> Patches 2 and 3 are not changing any functionality, but maybe they
>> should? As the potential bug has been present for more than a decade
>> now, I went with just deleting the useless "#define REALLY_SLOW_IO".
>> The alternative would be to do something similar as in patch 5.
>>
>> Juergen Gross (5):
>> x86/paravirt: Replace io_delay() hook with a bool
>> hwmon/lm78: Drop REALLY_SLOW_IO setting
>> hwmon/w83781d: Drop REALLY_SLOW_IO setting
>> block/floppy: Don't use REALLY_SLOW_IO for delays
>> x86/io: Remove REALLY_SLOW_IO handling
>>
>> arch/x86/include/asm/floppy.h | 27 ++++++++++++++++++++++-----
>> arch/x86/include/asm/io.h | 12 +++++-------
>> arch/x86/include/asm/paravirt.h | 11 +----------
>> arch/x86/include/asm/paravirt_types.h | 3 +--
>> arch/x86/kernel/cpu/vmware.c | 2 +-
>> arch/x86/kernel/kvm.c | 8 +-------
>> arch/x86/kernel/paravirt.c | 3 +--
>> arch/x86/xen/enlighten_pv.c | 6 +-----
>> drivers/block/floppy.c | 2 --
>> drivers/hwmon/lm78.c | 5 +++--
>> drivers/hwmon/w83781d.c | 5 +++--
>> 11 files changed, 39 insertions(+), 45 deletions(-)
>
> I think we should get rid of *all* io_delay hacks, they might have been
> relevant in the days of i386 systems, but we don't even support i386
> CPUs anymore. Should it cause any regressions, it's easy to bisect to.
> There's been enough changes around all these facilities that the
> original timings are probably way off already, so we've just been
> cargo-cult porting these to newer kernels essentially.
Fine with me.
Which path to removal of io_delay would you (and others) prefer?
1. Ripping it out immediately.
2. Hiding it behind a default-off config option for a few kernel versions
before removing it.
3. Using CONFIG_IO_DELAY_NONE as the default io_delay_type before ripping it
out.
4. Using CONFIG_IO_DELAY_NONE as the default io_delay_type before hiding it
behind a default-off config option, then rip it out later.
In cases 2-4 I'd still like to have patch 1 of my series applied, as it will
make paravirt rework easier.
Juergen
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-15 6:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-26 16:20 [PATCH 0/5] x86: Cleanups around slow_down_io() Juergen Gross
2025-11-26 16:20 ` [PATCH 2/5] hwmon/lm78: Drop REALLY_SLOW_IO setting Juergen Gross
2025-11-26 17:04 ` Guenter Roeck
2025-11-26 16:20 ` [PATCH 3/5] hwmon/w83781d: " Juergen Gross
2025-11-26 17:05 ` Guenter Roeck
2025-11-26 17:08 ` [PATCH 0/5] x86: Cleanups around slow_down_io() Guenter Roeck
2025-12-14 8:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-12-15 6:36 ` Jürgen Groß [this message]
2025-12-16 13:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-12-16 13:55 ` Jürgen Groß
2025-12-16 15:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-12-16 19:59 ` David Laight
2025-12-16 21:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
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