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From: Matthew Dobson <colpatch@us.ibm.com>
To: Mark Goodwin <markgw@sgi.com>
Cc: Erich Focht <efocht@hpce.nec.com>, Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>,
	Takayoshi Kochi <t-kochi@bq.jp.nec.com>,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Externalize SLIT table
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 23:58:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1100044724.3980.23.camel@arrakis> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0411100722070.14545@woolami.melbourne.sgi.com>

On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 12:34, Mark Goodwin wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, Matthew Dobson wrote:
> > ...
> > I don't think we should export the *exact same* node distance information
> > through the CPUs, though.
> 
> We should still export cpu distances though because the distance between
> cpus on the same node may not be equal. e.g. consider a node with multiple
> cpu sockets, each socket with a hyperthreaded (or dual core) cpu.

Well, I'm not sure that just because a CPU has two hyperthread units in
the same core that those HT units have a different distance or latency
to memory...?  The fact that it is a HT unit and not a physical core has
implications to the scheduler, but I thought that the 2 siblings looked
identical to userspace, no?  If 2 CPUs in the same node are on the same
bus, then in all likelihood they have the same "distance".


> Once again however, it depends on the definition of distance. For nodes,
> we've established it's the ACPI SLIT (relative distance to memory). For
> cpus, should it be distance to memory? Distance to cache? Registers? Or
> what?
> 
> -- Mark

That's the real issue.  We need to agree upon a meaningful definition of
CPU-to-CPU "distance".  As Jesse mentioned in a follow-up, we can all
agree on what Node-to-Node "distance" means, but there doesn't appear to
be much consensus on what CPU "distance" means.

-Matt


  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-11-09 23:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-03 20:56 Externalize SLIT table Jack Steiner
2004-11-04  1:59 ` Takayoshi Kochi
2004-11-04  4:07   ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-04  4:57     ` Takayoshi Kochi
2004-11-04  6:37       ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-05 16:08       ` Jack Steiner
2004-11-05 16:26         ` Andreas Schwab
2004-11-05 16:44           ` Jack Steiner
2004-11-06 11:50             ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-06 12:48               ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-06 13:07                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-05 17:13         ` Erich Focht
2004-11-05 19:13           ` Jack Steiner
2004-11-09 19:23     ` Matthew Dobson
2004-11-04 14:13   ` Jack Steiner
2004-11-04 14:29     ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-04 15:31     ` Erich Focht
2004-11-04 17:04       ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-04 19:36         ` Jack Steiner
2004-11-09 19:45         ` Matthew Dobson
2004-11-09 19:43       ` Matthew Dobson
2004-11-09 20:34         ` Mark Goodwin
2004-11-09 22:00           ` Jesse Barnes
2004-11-09 23:58           ` Matthew Dobson [this message]
2004-11-10  5:05             ` Mark Goodwin
2004-11-10 18:45               ` Erich Focht
2004-11-10 22:09                 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-11-18 16:39 ` Jack Steiner

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