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From: Jack Steiner <steiner@sgi.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Externalize SLIT table
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:39:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20041118163944.GA28955@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041103205655.GA5084@sgi.com>

(Resend of mail sent Nov 10, 2004 - as far as I can tell, it went nowhere)


On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 04:05:43PM +1100, Mark Goodwin wrote:
>
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, Matthew Dobson wrote:
> >On Tue, 2004-11-09 at 12:34, Mark Goodwin wrote:
> >>Once again however, it depends on the definition of distance. For nodes,
> >>we've established it's the ACPI SLIT (relative distance to memory). For
> >>cpus, should it be distance to memory? Distance to cache? Registers? Or
> >>what?
> >>
> >That's the real issue.  We need to agree upon a meaningful definition of   
> >CPU-to-CPU "distance".  As Jesse mentioned in a follow-up, we can all
> >agree on what Node-to-Node "distance" means, but there doesn't appear to
> >be much consensus on what CPU "distance" means.
>
> How about we define cpu-distance to be "relative distance to the
> lowest level cache on another CPU". On a system that has nodes with
> multiple sockets (each supporting multiple cores or HT "CPUs" sharing
> some level of cache), when the scheduler needs to migrate a task it would
> first choose a CPU sharing the same cache, then a CPU on the same node,
> then an off-node CPU (i.e. falling back to node distance).

I think I like your definition better than the one I originally proposed (cpu
distance was distance between the local memories of the cpus).

But how do we determine the distance between the caches.


> 
> Of course, I have no idea if that's anything like an optimal or desirable
> task migration policy. Probably depends on cache-trashiness of the task
> being migrated.
> 
> -- Mark



-- 
Thanks

Jack Steiner (steiner@sgi.com)          651-683-5302
Principal Engineer                      SGI - Silicon Graphics, Inc.



      parent reply	other threads:[~2004-11-18 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-03 20:56 Externalize SLIT table Jack Steiner
2004-11-04  1:59 ` Takayoshi Kochi
2004-11-04  4:07   ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-04  4:57     ` Takayoshi Kochi
2004-11-04  6:37       ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-05 16:08       ` Jack Steiner
2004-11-05 16:26         ` Andreas Schwab
2004-11-05 16:44           ` Jack Steiner
2004-11-06 11:50             ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-06 12:48               ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-06 13:07                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-05 17:13         ` Erich Focht
2004-11-05 19:13           ` Jack Steiner
2004-11-09 19:23     ` Matthew Dobson
2004-11-04 14:13   ` Jack Steiner
2004-11-04 14:29     ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-04 15:31     ` Erich Focht
2004-11-04 17:04       ` Andi Kleen
2004-11-04 19:36         ` Jack Steiner
2004-11-09 19:45         ` Matthew Dobson
2004-11-09 19:43       ` Matthew Dobson
2004-11-09 20:34         ` Mark Goodwin
2004-11-09 22:00           ` Jesse Barnes
2004-11-09 23:58           ` Matthew Dobson
2004-11-10  5:05             ` Mark Goodwin
2004-11-10 18:45               ` Erich Focht
2004-11-10 22:09                 ` Matthew Dobson
2004-11-18 16:39 ` Jack Steiner [this message]

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