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From: "Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>
To: "Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>,
	'Christoph Lameter' <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: 'Nick Piggin' <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	'Zoltan Menyhart' <Zoltan.Menyhart@bull.net>,
	"'Boehm, Hans'" <hans.boehm@hp.com>,
	"'Grundler, Grant G'" <grant.grundler@hp.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: Synchronizing Bit operations V2
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:51:25 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603310250.k2V2ofg28252@unix-os.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603301615540.2023@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

Chen, Kenneth W wrote on Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:45 PM
> Christoph Lameter wrote on Thursday, March 30, 2006 6:38 PM
> > > > Neither one is correct because there will always be one combination of 
> > > > clear_bit with these macros that does not generate the required memory 
> > > > barrier.
> > > 
> > > Can you give an example?  Which combination?
> > 
> > For Option(1)
> > 
> > smp_mb__before_clear_bit()
> > clear_bit(...)(
> 
> Sorry, you totally lost me.  It could me I'm extremely slow today.  For
> option (1), on ia64, clear_bit has release semantic already.  The comb
> of __before_clear_bit + clear_bit provides the required ordering.  Did
> I miss something?  By the way, we are talking about detail implementation
> on one specific architecture.  Not some generic concept that clear_bit
> has no ordering stuff in there.

By the way, this is the same thing on x86: look at include/asm-i386/bitops.h:

#define smp_mb__before_clear_bit()      barrier()
#define smp_mb__after_clear_bit()       barrier()

A simple compiler barrier, nothing but
#define barrier() __asm__ __volatile__("": : :"memory")

See, no memory ordering there, because clear_bit already has a LOCK prefix.

- Ken

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-03-31  2:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-30 21:02 Bit operations with the ability to specify a synchronization mode Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  0:18 ` Synchronizing Bit operations V2 Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  0:39   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  0:42     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  0:45     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  0:42   ` David Mosberger-Tang
2006-03-31  0:49     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  6:10     ` Chris Wright
2006-03-31  0:44   ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31  3:28     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  4:12       ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31 17:43         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-01  2:56           ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31  0:50   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  0:51     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  0:53   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  0:55     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  0:56   ` Luck, Tony
2006-03-31  0:58     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-02  7:59       ` Russell King
2006-03-31  0:59   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  1:09     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  1:04   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  1:13     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  1:13   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  1:29   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  1:37     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  1:33   ` linux
2006-03-31  1:40     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  2:35   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  2:37     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  2:45   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  2:53     ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31  3:01     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  2:51   ` Chen, Kenneth W [this message]
2006-03-31  2:55     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  3:02   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  3:08     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  3:10   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  3:12     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  3:11   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  3:14   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  3:20     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  3:17   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  3:23   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  3:37   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  6:15   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  7:34     ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31 13:28   ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-31 16:22     ` Hans Boehm
2006-03-31 16:37       ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-31 17:46         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31 17:45     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31 17:48       ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-31 17:56         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-02  7:54           ` Russell King
2006-03-31 18:57   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31 19:41   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31 21:15     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31 21:24   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31 21:28     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-01  2:16       ` Nick Piggin

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