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From: "Chen, Kenneth W" <kenneth.w.chen@intel.com>
To: 'Christoph Lameter' <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: 'Nick Piggin' <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	Zoltan Menyhart <Zoltan.Menyhart@bull.net>,
	"Boehm, Hans" <hans.boehm@hp.com>,
	"Grundler, Grant G" <grant.grundler@hp.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: RE: Synchronizing Bit operations V2
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:24:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200603312123.k2VLNqg06655@unix-os.sc.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603311313530.8003@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603301615540.2023@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

Christoph Lameter wrote on Friday, March 31, 2006 1:15 PM
> > > They are not. They provide equivalent barrier when performed
> > > before/after a clear_bit, there is a big difference.
> > 
> > Just to give another blunt brutal example, what is said here is equivalent
> > to say kernel requires:
> > 
> >    <end of critical section>
> >    smp_mb_before_spin_unlock
> >    spin_unlock
> > 
> > Because it is undesirable to have spin_unlock to leak into the critical
> > Section and allow critical section to leak after spin_unlock.  This is
> > just plain brain dead.
> 
> I think we could say that lock semantics are different from barriers. They 
> are more like acquire and release on IA64. The problem with smb_mb_*** is 
> that the coder *explicitly* requested a barrier operation and we do not 
> give it to him.

I was browsing sparc64 code and it defines:

include/asm-sparc64/bitops.h:
#define smp_mb__after_clear_bit()      membar_storeload_storestore()

With my very naïve knowledge of sparc64, it doesn't look like a full barrier.
Maybe sparc64 is broken too ...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-03-31 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-03-30 21:02 Bit operations with the ability to specify a synchronization mode Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  0:18 ` Synchronizing Bit operations V2 Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  0:39   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  0:42     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  0:45     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  0:42   ` David Mosberger-Tang
2006-03-31  0:49     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  6:10     ` Chris Wright
2006-03-31  0:44   ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31  3:28     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  4:12       ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31 17:43         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-01  2:56           ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31  0:50   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  0:51     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  0:53   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  0:55     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  0:56   ` Luck, Tony
2006-03-31  0:58     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-02  7:59       ` Russell King
2006-03-31  0:59   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  1:09     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  1:04   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  1:13     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  1:13   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  1:29   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  1:37     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  1:33   ` linux
2006-03-31  1:40     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  2:35   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  2:37     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  2:45   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  2:53     ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31  3:01     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  2:51   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  2:55     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  3:02   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  3:08     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  3:10   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  3:12     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  3:11   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  3:14   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  3:20     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31  3:17   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  3:23   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  3:37   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  6:15   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31  7:34     ` Nick Piggin
2006-03-31 13:28   ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-31 16:22     ` Hans Boehm
2006-03-31 16:37       ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-31 17:46         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31 17:45     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31 17:48       ` Andi Kleen
2006-03-31 17:56         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-02  7:54           ` Russell King
2006-03-31 18:57   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31 19:41   ` Chen, Kenneth W
2006-03-31 21:15     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-03-31 21:24   ` Chen, Kenneth W [this message]
2006-03-31 21:28     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-04-01  2:16       ` Nick Piggin

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