From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Deucher, Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>
Cc: "Hegde, Vasant" <Vasant.Hegde@amd.com>,
"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
"Suthikulpanit, Suravee" <Suravee.Suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
"Huang2, Wei" <Wei.Huang2@amd.com>,
"jsnitsel@redhat.com" <jsnitsel@redhat.com>,
"Kuehling, Felix" <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/5] iommu/amd: Remove iommu_v2 module
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2023 13:31:54 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230921163154.GO13733@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BL1PR12MB51449627A11B2BDA55B97C8CF7F8A@BL1PR12MB5144.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 03:15:42PM +0000, Deucher, Alexander wrote:
> > > Does this patch or the following patches make any functional changes
> > > for devices? E.g., devices which supported ATS would have been put
> > > into an identity mapping mode previously Is that still retained?
> >
> > Huh? Why would we ever want to do that?
> >
> > Policy for the default domain belongs in the iommu subsystem except in
> > extreme cases, the AMD driver should not be doing random things like forcing
> > identity for ATS capable PCI devices.
>
> I'm just concerned about regressions in random devices due to a
> change in policy in the IOMMU driver. Previously the IOMMU driver
> would put ATS compatible devices into 1:1 mode. Also some of the
> earlier integrated GPUs require 1:1 mapping for display from system
> memory due to hardware limitations. There were also a lot of sbios
> bugs in the carrizo/raven timeframe because windows didn't enable
> the IOMMU so lots of OEMs had bogus IOMMU ACPI tables which didn't
> cause problems when 1:1 mode was used.
That is a fair concern.
But we need to root those out and fix them as narrow quirks. We don't
want a driver to have blanket ATS == identity configuration, it will
harm other legitimate applications.
eg if you want to narrowly quirk integrated GPUs and carrizo/raven
that would be great.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-21 16:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-21 9:31 [PATCH v3 0/5] iommu/amd: SVA Support (part 2) - deprecate iommu_v2 module Vasant Hegde
2023-09-21 9:31 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] iommu/amd: Remove " Vasant Hegde
2023-09-21 14:05 ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-09-21 14:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-21 15:15 ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-09-21 16:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-09-22 2:23 ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-22 8:52 ` Vasant Hegde
2023-09-22 12:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-25 15:11 ` Vasant Hegde
2023-09-25 15:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-25 16:31 ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-09-25 16:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22 11:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22 12:13 ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-22 12:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-22 12:42 ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-22 12:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-25 9:04 ` joro
2023-09-25 15:40 ` Vasant Hegde
2023-09-28 14:52 ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-10-05 11:29 ` Vasant Hegde
2023-10-06 15:19 ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-09-22 18:08 ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-09-22 18:15 ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-09-22 6:45 ` Vasant Hegde
2023-09-22 18:13 ` Deucher, Alexander
2023-09-25 15:30 ` Vasant Hegde
2023-09-21 9:31 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] iommu/amd: Remove PPR support Vasant Hegde
2023-09-21 9:31 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] iommu/amd: Remove amd_iommu_device_info() Vasant Hegde
2023-09-21 9:31 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] iommu/amd: Remove unused EXPORT_SYMBOLS Vasant Hegde
2023-09-21 9:31 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] Revert "iommu: Fix false ownership failure on AMD systems with PASID activated" Vasant Hegde
2023-10-02 6:32 ` [PATCH v3 0/5] iommu/amd: SVA Support (part 2) - deprecate iommu_v2 module Joerg Roedel
2023-10-05 11:30 ` Vasant Hegde
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