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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux.dev" <iommu@lists.linux.dev>,
	"joro@8bytes.org" <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
	"robin.murphy@arm.com" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com" <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] iommu: Enhance domain allocation code to take additional flags
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 10:51:48 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240826135148.GG3468552@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB52760A298E3000770D2FF6F38C8B2@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Mon, Aug 26, 2024 at 08:59:47AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > First-stage has some limitations for an UNMANAGED domain. For example,

If these are important then they need their own flags for iommufd to
request them.

> > - No separate controls for the Access/Dirty page tracking;
> 
> You can do sw control upon whether to pre-set the a/d bit? 

The VMM can specify

IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC_NEST_PARENT | IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC_DIRTY_TRACKING

If this is important?

> > - No Write-only permission support;
> 
> What is the actual usage? What about a vIOMMU which
> only supports stage-1?

Is there some usage for this?

> > - No page-level control for forcing snoop.
> 
> again we don't have such page-granular snoop usage now and
> in scalable mode we always set PGSNP field in the PASID entry
> which makes the PTE snoop bit unused.

Right no-snoop is expected to be domain global.

> iirc arm smmu is using this policy too. Jason, is there any
> similar limitations between stage-1 vs. stage-2 as above ?

There are some difference, but more around performance. I think ARM
would prefer to use the S2 in many cases because it may decrease the
table depth by 1.

AMD prefers to use their S2 for performance because it has more page
size options.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-26 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-21 13:35 [PATCH 0/5] iommu: Domain allocation enhancements Vasant Hegde
2024-08-21 13:35 ` [PATCH 1/5] iommu: Enhance domain allocation code to take additional flags Vasant Hegde
2024-08-21 16:31   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-22  1:50     ` Baolu Lu
2024-08-22 12:43       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-23  2:47         ` Baolu Lu
2024-08-26  8:08           ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-26  8:34             ` Baolu Lu
2024-08-26  8:59               ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-26 13:51                 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-08-26  8:47           ` Vasant Hegde
2024-08-26 13:45           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-22 11:27     ` Yi Liu
2024-08-22 12:44       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-23  8:58         ` Yi Liu
2024-08-24 14:47           ` Vasant Hegde
2024-08-28 21:52             ` Jacob Pan
2024-08-29 10:51               ` Vasant Hegde
2024-08-29 12:10                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29 12:47                   ` Vasant Hegde
2024-08-29 13:11                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-11 10:54                       ` Vasant Hegde
2024-08-29 17:40                     ` Jacob Pan
     [not found]                     ` <66d0b2a1.630a0220.1dd301.daceSMTPIN_ADDED_BROKEN@mx.google.com>
2024-08-30 15:00                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-26  8:36     ` Vasant Hegde
2024-08-26 13:56       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29 12:34         ` Vasant Hegde
2024-08-22  1:38   ` Baolu Lu
2024-08-22 12:40     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-23  2:04       ` Baolu Lu
2024-08-26  6:09     ` Vasant Hegde
2024-08-22  2:10   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-22  3:03   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-22  5:07   ` kernel test robot
2024-08-21 13:35 ` [PATCH 2/5] iommu/amd: Separate page table setup from domain allocation Vasant Hegde
2024-08-21 16:40   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-21 13:35 ` [PATCH 3/5] iommu/amd: Pass page table type to pdomain_setup_pgtable() Vasant Hegde
2024-08-21 13:35 ` [PATCH 4/5] iommu/amd: Enhance domain_alloc_user() to allocate PASID capable domain Vasant Hegde
2024-08-21 13:35 ` [PATCH 5/5] iommu/amd: Add iommu_ops->domain_alloc_paging support Vasant Hegde
2024-08-21 15:57   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-11 10:44     ` Vasant Hegde

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