From: catalin.marinas at arm.com (Catalin Marinas)
Subject: [PATCH v15 00/17] arm64: untag user pointers passed to the kernel
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 08:34:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190523073425.GA43379@MBP.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJgzZorUPzrXu0ysDdKwnqdvgWZJ9tqRjF-9_5CU_UV+c0bRCA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 04:09:31PM -0700, enh wrote:
> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 4:03 PM Evgenii Stepanov <eugenis at google.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 1:47 PM Kees Cook <keescook at chromium.org> wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 05:35:27PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > I would also expect the C library or dynamic loader to check for the
> > > > presence of a HWCAP_MTE bit before starting to tag memory allocations,
> > > > otherwise it would get SIGILL on the first MTE instruction it tries to
> > > > execute.
> > >
> > > I've got the same question as Elliot: aren't MTE instructions just NOP
> > > to older CPUs? I.e. if the CPU (or kernel) don't support it, it just
> > > gets entirely ignored: checking is only needed to satisfy curiosity
> > > or behavioral expectations.
> >
> > MTE instructions are not NOP. Most of them have side effects (changing
> > register values, zeroing memory).
>
> no, i meant "they're encoded in a space that was previously no-ops, so
> running on MTE code on old hardware doesn't cause SIGILL".
It does result in SIGILL, there wasn't enough encoding left in the NOP
space for old/current CPU implementations (in hindsight, we should have
reserved a bigger NOP space).
As Evgenii said, the libc needs to be careful when tagging the heap as
it would cause a SIGILL if the HWCAP_MTE is not set. The standard
application doesn't need to be recompiled as it would not issue MTE
colouring instructions, just standard LDR/STR.
Stack tagging is problematic if you want to colour each frame
individually, the function prologue would need the non-NOP MTE
instructions. The best we can do here is just having the (thread) stacks
of different colours.
--
Catalin
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From: catalin.marinas@arm.com (Catalin Marinas)
Subject: [PATCH v15 00/17] arm64: untag user pointers passed to the kernel
Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 08:34:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190523073425.GA43379@MBP.local> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190523073425.lIt9hdqPCnoqgMXEMTldSBjy4KxutNhqrZQuoT0rwLA@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJgzZorUPzrXu0ysDdKwnqdvgWZJ9tqRjF-9_5CU_UV+c0bRCA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, May 22, 2019@04:09:31PM -0700, enh wrote:
> On Wed, May 22, 2019@4:03 PM Evgenii Stepanov <eugenis@google.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, May 22, 2019@1:47 PM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 22, 2019@05:35:27PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > > I would also expect the C library or dynamic loader to check for the
> > > > presence of a HWCAP_MTE bit before starting to tag memory allocations,
> > > > otherwise it would get SIGILL on the first MTE instruction it tries to
> > > > execute.
> > >
> > > I've got the same question as Elliot: aren't MTE instructions just NOP
> > > to older CPUs? I.e. if the CPU (or kernel) don't support it, it just
> > > gets entirely ignored: checking is only needed to satisfy curiosity
> > > or behavioral expectations.
> >
> > MTE instructions are not NOP. Most of them have side effects (changing
> > register values, zeroing memory).
>
> no, i meant "they're encoded in a space that was previously no-ops, so
> running on MTE code on old hardware doesn't cause SIGILL".
It does result in SIGILL, there wasn't enough encoding left in the NOP
space for old/current CPU implementations (in hindsight, we should have
reserved a bigger NOP space).
As Evgenii said, the libc needs to be careful when tagging the heap as
it would cause a SIGILL if the HWCAP_MTE is not set. The standard
application doesn't need to be recompiled as it would not issue MTE
colouring instructions, just standard LDR/STR.
Stack tagging is problematic if you want to colour each frame
individually, the function prologue would need the non-NOP MTE
instructions. The best we can do here is just having the (thread) stacks
of different colours.
--
Catalin
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2019-05-06 16:30 [PATCH v15 00/17] arm64: untag user pointers passed to the kernel andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-06 16:30 ` [PATCH v15 01/17] uaccess: add untagged_addr definition for other arches andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-29 14:49 ` khalid.aziz
2019-05-29 14:49 ` Khalid Aziz
2019-05-06 16:30 ` [PATCH v15 02/17] arm64: untag user pointers in access_ok and __uaccess_mask_ptr andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-06 16:30 ` [PATCH v15 03/17] lib, arm64: untag user pointers in strn*_user andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-22 10:41 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-22 10:41 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-06 16:30 ` [PATCH v15 04/17] mm: add ksys_ wrappers to memory syscalls andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-22 10:56 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-22 10:56 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-06 16:30 ` [PATCH v15 05/17] arms64: untag user pointers passed " andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-22 11:49 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-22 11:49 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-22 21:16 ` eugenis
2019-05-22 21:16 ` Evgenii Stepanov
2019-05-23 9:04 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-23 9:04 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-24 4:23 ` eugenis
2019-05-24 4:23 ` Evgenii Stepanov
2019-05-24 15:41 ` andrew.murray
2019-05-24 15:41 ` Andrew Murray
2019-05-25 9:57 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-25 9:57 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-27 9:42 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-27 9:42 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-27 14:37 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-27 14:37 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-28 14:54 ` andrew.murray
2019-05-28 14:54 ` Andrew Murray
2019-05-28 15:40 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-28 15:40 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-28 15:56 ` Dave.Martin
2019-05-28 15:56 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-28 16:34 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-28 16:34 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-29 12:42 ` Dave.Martin
2019-05-29 12:42 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-29 13:23 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-29 13:23 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-29 15:18 ` Dave.Martin
2019-05-29 15:18 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-28 23:33 ` khalid.aziz
2019-05-28 23:33 ` Khalid Aziz
2019-05-29 14:20 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-29 14:20 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-29 19:16 ` khalid.aziz
2019-05-29 19:16 ` Khalid Aziz
2019-05-30 15:11 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-30 15:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-30 16:05 ` khalid.aziz
2019-05-30 16:05 ` Khalid Aziz
2019-05-30 16:57 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-30 16:57 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-28 13:05 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-28 13:05 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-06 16:30 ` [PATCH v15 06/17] mm: untag user pointers in do_pages_move andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-22 11:51 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-22 11:51 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-06 16:30 ` [PATCH v15 07/17] mm, arm64: untag user pointers in mm/gup.c andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-22 11:56 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-22 11:56 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-06 16:30 ` [PATCH v15 08/17] mm, arm64: untag user pointers in get_vaddr_frames andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-06 16:30 ` [PATCH v15 09/17] fs, arm64: untag user pointers in copy_mount_options andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-22 12:09 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-22 12:09 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-06 16:30 ` [PATCH v15 10/17] fs, arm64: untag user pointers in fs/userfaultfd.c andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-06 16:30 ` [PATCH v15 11/17] drm/amdgpu, arm64: untag user pointers andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-07 16:43 ` Felix.Kuehling
2019-05-07 16:43 ` Kuehling, Felix
2019-05-06 16:30 ` [PATCH v15 12/17] drm/radeon, arm64: untag user pointers in radeon_gem_userptr_ioctl andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-07 16:44 ` Felix.Kuehling
2019-05-07 16:44 ` Kuehling, Felix
2019-05-06 16:30 ` [PATCH v15 13/17] IB, arm64: untag user pointers in ib_uverbs_(re)reg_mr() andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:30 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-06 19:50 ` jgg
2019-05-06 19:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-05-07 6:33 ` leon
2019-05-07 6:33 ` Leon Romanovsky
2019-05-06 16:31 ` [PATCH v15 14/17] media/v4l2-core, arm64: untag user pointers in videobuf_dma_contig_user_get andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:31 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-24 13:13 ` mchehab+samsung
2019-05-24 13:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-05-06 16:31 ` [PATCH v15 15/17] tee, arm64: untag user pointers in tee_shm_register andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:31 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-06 16:31 ` [PATCH v15 16/17] vfio/type1, arm64: untag user pointers in vaddr_get_pfn andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:31 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-06 16:31 ` [PATCH v15 17/17] selftests, arm64: add a selftest for passing tagged pointers to kernel andreyknvl
2019-05-06 16:31 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-22 14:16 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-22 14:16 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-31 14:21 ` andreyknvl
2019-05-31 14:21 ` Andrey Konovalov
2019-05-31 16:22 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-31 16:22 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-17 14:49 ` [PATCH v15 00/17] arm64: untag user pointers passed to the kernel catalin.marinas
2019-05-17 14:49 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-20 23:53 ` eugenis
2019-05-20 23:53 ` Evgenii Stepanov
2019-05-21 18:29 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-21 18:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-22 0:04 ` keescook
2019-05-22 0:04 ` Kees Cook
2019-05-22 10:11 ` catalin.marinas
2019-05-22 10:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2019-05-22 15:30 ` enh
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2019-05-22 23:03 ` eugenis
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