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From: Leonid Yegoshin <Leonid.Yegoshin@imgtec.com>
To: Paul Burton <paul.burton@imgtec.com>
Cc: <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>, Lars Persson <lars.persson@axis.com>,
	"stable # v4 . 1+" <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Steven J. Hill" <Steven.Hill@imgtec.com>,
	David Daney <david.daney@cavium.com>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhc@lemote.com>,
	Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>
Subject: Re: [4/4] MIPS: Sync icache & dcache in set_pte_at
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 13:01:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56D9F78E.6090303@imgtec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160304103714.GA5576@NP-P-BURTON>

Paul,

On 03/04/2016 02:37 AM, Paul Burton wrote:
> The problem is that there are other code paths which dirty pages (ie.
> call flush_dcache_page), then get as far as set_pte_at *without* calling
> flush_icache_page.

There is no problem with lazy flush of D-cache and PTE update. D-cache 
works in PHYSICAL ADDRESSes and is independent from that is set in PTE 
and TLB. You can even don't flush D-cache during page-fault, keep stuff 
in D-cache and switch any PTE/TLB in any CPU - anything is coherent... 
if we forget for a moment about cache aliasing, non-coherent I-cache and 
DMA.

Cache aliasing is not compatible with SMP (until some public inter-L1 
protocol is changed to accommodate virtual address).

I-cache incoherency is taken into account in flush_icache_page(), 
including a completion of lazy D-cache flush at that point.

DMA ... well it is a complicated issue now but a simplest rule - 
complete all flush before/after DMA and it is done in 
dma_cache_wback_inv/dma_cache_inv (but I intentionally put out of issue 
the speculative access which complicates an issue).

So, you fight a wrong enemy.


>   Again - I included call traces from 2 paths that hit
> this right in the commit message.
>
> So:
>
>    - flush_icache_page isn't always called before we *need* to writeback
>      the page from the dcache. This is demonstrably the case (again, see
>      the commit message), and causes bugs when using UBIFS on boards
>      using the pistachio SoC at least.

You didn't prove that it is because of your model. You referenced to 
flush_icache_page absence in different places but that places don't 
prepare a code page:

     - forking process actually doesn't copy any page but set it 
temporary non-writable, actual copy is done in page fault
     - load_elf_binary doesn't load any code pages and again leaves that 
process to page fault.

>
>    - flush_icache_page is indicated as something that should go away in
>      Documentation/cachetlb.txt. Why do you feel we should make use of
>      it?

I think it is a wrong mark in doc.

I suspect that your problem with UBIFS is because any DMA-ed code page 
should be flushed from DCache during page fault in flush_icache_page. 
Current master branch code does it only if it is "dirty" but I suspect 
that UBIFS may not do it in some place (doesn't mark it as 
"dirty-by-kernel"). Besides that non-DMA-ed pages can be written by 
device driver which has no access to that bit. For this reason in my 
3.10 branch there is a kernel boot parameter option "mips_non_DMA_FS" 
which enforces D-cache flush regardless it is dirty or not.

I again call you to look into 
https://git.linux-mips.org/cgit/yegoshin/mips.git, branch 
android-linux-mti-3.10 to understand that stuff.

- Leonid.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Leonid Yegoshin <Leonid.Yegoshin@imgtec.com>
To: Paul Burton <paul.burton@imgtec.com>
Cc: linux-mips@linux-mips.org, Lars Persson <lars.persson@axis.com>,
	"stable # v4 . 1+" <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Steven J. Hill" <Steven.Hill@imgtec.com>,
	David Daney <david.daney@cavium.com>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhc@lemote.com>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>
Subject: Re: [4/4] MIPS: Sync icache & dcache in set_pte_at
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2016 13:01:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56D9F78E.6090303@imgtec.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20160304210102.NKjdy2YNdggITeL4noioTWC9XDAUzFqjosUmAIfaRjc@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160304103714.GA5576@NP-P-BURTON>

Paul,

On 03/04/2016 02:37 AM, Paul Burton wrote:
> The problem is that there are other code paths which dirty pages (ie.
> call flush_dcache_page), then get as far as set_pte_at *without* calling
> flush_icache_page.

There is no problem with lazy flush of D-cache and PTE update. D-cache 
works in PHYSICAL ADDRESSes and is independent from that is set in PTE 
and TLB. You can even don't flush D-cache during page-fault, keep stuff 
in D-cache and switch any PTE/TLB in any CPU - anything is coherent... 
if we forget for a moment about cache aliasing, non-coherent I-cache and 
DMA.

Cache aliasing is not compatible with SMP (until some public inter-L1 
protocol is changed to accommodate virtual address).

I-cache incoherency is taken into account in flush_icache_page(), 
including a completion of lazy D-cache flush at that point.

DMA ... well it is a complicated issue now but a simplest rule - 
complete all flush before/after DMA and it is done in 
dma_cache_wback_inv/dma_cache_inv (but I intentionally put out of issue 
the speculative access which complicates an issue).

So, you fight a wrong enemy.


>   Again - I included call traces from 2 paths that hit
> this right in the commit message.
>
> So:
>
>    - flush_icache_page isn't always called before we *need* to writeback
>      the page from the dcache. This is demonstrably the case (again, see
>      the commit message), and causes bugs when using UBIFS on boards
>      using the pistachio SoC at least.

You didn't prove that it is because of your model. You referenced to 
flush_icache_page absence in different places but that places don't 
prepare a code page:

     - forking process actually doesn't copy any page but set it 
temporary non-writable, actual copy is done in page fault
     - load_elf_binary doesn't load any code pages and again leaves that 
process to page fault.

>
>    - flush_icache_page is indicated as something that should go away in
>      Documentation/cachetlb.txt. Why do you feel we should make use of
>      it?

I think it is a wrong mark in doc.

I suspect that your problem with UBIFS is because any DMA-ed code page 
should be flushed from DCache during page fault in flush_icache_page. 
Current master branch code does it only if it is "dirty" but I suspect 
that UBIFS may not do it in some place (doesn't mark it as 
"dirty-by-kernel"). Besides that non-DMA-ed pages can be written by 
device driver which has no access to that bit. For this reason in my 
3.10 branch there is a kernel boot parameter option "mips_non_DMA_FS" 
which enforces D-cache flush regardless it is dirty or not.

I again call you to look into 
https://git.linux-mips.org/cgit/yegoshin/mips.git, branch 
android-linux-mti-3.10 to understand that stuff.

- Leonid.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-04 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-01  2:37 [PATCH 0/4] MIPS cache & highmem fixes Paul Burton
2016-03-01  2:37 ` Paul Burton
2016-03-01  2:37 ` [PATCH 1/4] MIPS: Flush dcache for flush_kernel_dcache_page Paul Burton
2016-03-01  2:37   ` Paul Burton
2016-03-04 15:09   ` Lars Persson
2016-03-29  8:29     ` Ralf Baechle
2016-03-01  2:37 ` [PATCH 2/4] MIPS: Flush highmem pages in __flush_dcache_page Paul Burton
2016-03-01  2:37   ` Paul Burton
2016-03-29  8:35   ` Ralf Baechle
2016-03-29  8:55     ` Paul Burton
2016-03-29  8:55       ` Paul Burton
2016-03-01  2:37 ` [PATCH 3/4] MIPS: Handle highmem pages in __update_cache Paul Burton
2016-03-01  2:37   ` Paul Burton
2016-03-29  8:39   ` Ralf Baechle
2016-03-01  2:37 ` [PATCH 4/4] MIPS: Sync icache & dcache in set_pte_at Paul Burton
2016-03-01  2:37   ` Paul Burton
2016-03-01  9:44   ` Lars Persson
2016-03-01  9:44     ` Lars Persson
2016-03-01 17:13   ` David Daney
2016-03-01 17:13     ` David Daney
2016-03-01 17:19     ` Paul Burton
2016-03-01 17:19       ` Paul Burton
2016-03-02 14:12       ` Ralf Baechle
2016-03-02 14:24         ` Paul Burton
2016-03-02 14:24           ` Paul Burton
2016-03-04 17:43       ` David Daney
2016-03-04 17:43         ` David Daney
2016-03-04 17:47         ` Paul Burton
2016-03-04 17:47           ` Paul Burton
2016-03-03  3:03   ` [4/4] " Leonid Yegoshin
2016-03-03  3:03     ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-03-04 10:37     ` Paul Burton
2016-03-04 10:37       ` Paul Burton
2016-03-04 15:20       ` Lars Persson
2016-03-04 21:01       ` Leonid Yegoshin [this message]
2016-03-04 21:01         ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-03-04 21:21         ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-03-04 21:21           ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-03-05  1:06         ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-03-05  1:06           ` Leonid Yegoshin
2016-03-04 19:02   ` [PATCH 4/4] " Lars Persson
2016-03-05  0:21     ` Paul Burton
2016-03-05  0:27       ` Paul Burton
2016-03-02 11:39 ` [PATCH 0/4] MIPS cache & highmem fixes Harvey Hunt
2016-03-02 11:39   ` Harvey Hunt

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