From: Malahal Naineni <malahal@us.ibm.com>
To: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
Tigran Mkrtchyan <tigran.mkrtchyan@desy.de>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Matthew Treinish <treinish@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/7] Volatile Filehandle Client-side Support
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:09:14 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120113170914.GA31414@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1321338825.8267.2.camel@lade.trondhjem.org>
Trond Myklebust [Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com] wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 08:07 +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
>
> > If a server has objects that are never renamed, it can easily use volatile
> > file handles.
> > If a server has objects which can be renamed and wants to use volatile file
> > handles, then if such an object is open and is about to be renamed, it must
> > first log to stable storage some mapping to allow it to access the file from
> > the old volatile file handle. And of course it cannot allow renames during
> > the grace period, but I think we already have that.
> > Also, if the VFH is such that it will be lost on a reboot, the server must
> > log it to stable storage before allowing an open.
>
> BTW: If the namespace is stable, then the server can easily implement
> permanent filehandles. Use a hash of the pathname as the filehandle, and
> set up a hidden directory ('/.filehandles') containing symlinks that map
> said hash back to the correct pathname. No need for volatile
> filehandles.
Neil and Trond, one of our use cases is for a read only file system. The
name space is stable and Volatile File Handle support should not have
any issues under those conditions, correct?
Trond, trying to understand how we can make file handles permanent at
the servers with your ideas. We do use linux NFS server. Looks like the
server needs a new config parameter to hide '/.filehandles' and use it
for storing permanent file handles. Also, the solution needs a tool
that generates/populates './filehandles' directory. I don't know how
best we should handle hash collisions at this point (shouldn't be an
issue once we agree to a method though). Anything else I am missing?
Any thoughts from linux NFS server community? Is this approach
acceptable?
Regards, Malahal.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-13 17:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-11 23:04 [PATCH/RFC 0/7] Volatile Filehandle Client-side Support Matthew Treinish
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/7] New mount option for volatile filehandle recovery Matthew Treinish
2011-11-12 0:19 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-11-12 3:35 ` Malahal Naineni
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/7] Added support for FH_EXPIRE_TYPE attribute Matthew Treinish
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/7] Add VFS objects from nfs4_proc calls into nfs4_exception Matthew Treinish
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/7] Save root file handle in nfs_server Matthew Treinish
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/7] Added VFH FHEXPIRED recovery functions Matthew Treinish
2011-11-12 0:27 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-11-12 3:45 ` Malahal Naineni
2011-11-12 17:16 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-11-14 21:12 ` Matthew Treinish
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC 6/7] Perform recovery on both inodes for rename Matthew Treinish
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC 7/7] Added error handling for NFS4ERR_FHEXPIRED Matthew Treinish
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC] Hard code testing on server <ONLY FOR TESTING> Matthew Treinish
2011-11-12 0:13 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/7] Volatile Filehandle Client-side Support Trond Myklebust
2011-11-12 14:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-13 3:54 ` NeilBrown
2011-11-13 13:45 ` Tigran Mkrtchyan
2011-11-13 16:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-11-13 21:07 ` NeilBrown
2011-11-14 0:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-11-14 1:26 ` NeilBrown
2011-11-14 17:27 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-11-15 6:33 ` Trond Myklebust
2012-01-13 17:09 ` Malahal Naineni [this message]
2012-01-14 1:38 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-16 16:52 ` Malahal Naineni
2012-01-17 15:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-17 17:22 ` Malahal Naineni
2012-01-17 18:47 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-17 19:43 ` Malahal Naineni
2011-11-14 16:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-11-13 16:42 ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-11-13 16:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-11-13 18:25 ` Matthew Treinish
2011-11-13 18:06 ` Matthew Treinish
2011-11-14 9:09 ` Tigran Mkrtchyan
2011-11-14 21:47 ` Matthew Treinish
2011-11-15 6:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-11-15 22:38 ` Matthew Treinish
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