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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC 0/7] Volatile Filehandle Client-side Support
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:47:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120117184743.GB15460@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120117172231.GA21603@us.ibm.com>

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:22:31AM -0600, Malahal Naineni wrote:
> J. Bruce Fields [bfields@fieldses.org] wrote:
> > > Only answers can be dumb! Bruce, we have ext3/ext4 file systems on two
> > > separate servers. The file systems are mirrored using rsync as and when
> > > needed. We would like to use the servers as replicas.
> > 
> > And why aren't you rsync'ing the underlying filesystem image instead?
> > Is that too slow?
> 
> The file system image is too big to do entire image level rsync'ing.

Is there any way you could get hints from the filesystem about which
blocks are actually used, that could make this as efficient?

> > > Since the file systems are mirrored using "rsync", the NFS file handles
> > > each server exports would be different. We would like to use volatile
> > > file handles feature of NFSv4 for this.
> > 
> > In theory the hidden directory for reverse lookups would work, but it
> > seems like it would be complicated to get right:
> > 	- How do you generate the directory and keep it up to date?
> > 	- What happens if somebody breaks the rules and updates the
> > 	  filesystem while it's being exported?
> 
> I think so too. We think Volatile file handle support on the client side
> is simpler for our use case (read only NFS file systems)

Won't it be confusing to applications if inode numbers change on
migration?

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-17 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-11 23:04 [PATCH/RFC 0/7] Volatile Filehandle Client-side Support Matthew Treinish
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC 1/7] New mount option for volatile filehandle recovery Matthew Treinish
2011-11-12  0:19   ` Trond Myklebust
2011-11-12  3:35     ` Malahal Naineni
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC 2/7] Added support for FH_EXPIRE_TYPE attribute Matthew Treinish
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC 3/7] Add VFS objects from nfs4_proc calls into nfs4_exception Matthew Treinish
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC 4/7] Save root file handle in nfs_server Matthew Treinish
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC 5/7] Added VFH FHEXPIRED recovery functions Matthew Treinish
2011-11-12  0:27   ` Trond Myklebust
2011-11-12  3:45     ` Malahal Naineni
2011-11-12 17:16       ` Trond Myklebust
2011-11-14 21:12         ` Matthew Treinish
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC 6/7] Perform recovery on both inodes for rename Matthew Treinish
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC 7/7] Added error handling for NFS4ERR_FHEXPIRED Matthew Treinish
2011-11-11 23:04 ` [PATCH/RFC] Hard code testing on server <ONLY FOR TESTING> Matthew Treinish
2011-11-12  0:13 ` [PATCH/RFC 0/7] Volatile Filehandle Client-side Support Trond Myklebust
2011-11-12 14:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-11-13  3:54     ` NeilBrown
2011-11-13 13:45       ` Tigran Mkrtchyan
2011-11-13 16:36         ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-11-13 21:07           ` NeilBrown
2011-11-14  0:42             ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-11-14  1:26               ` NeilBrown
2011-11-14 17:27             ` Trond Myklebust
2011-11-15  6:33             ` Trond Myklebust
2012-01-13 17:09               ` Malahal Naineni
2012-01-14  1:38                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-16 16:52                   ` Malahal Naineni
2012-01-17 15:18                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-17 17:22                       ` Malahal Naineni
2012-01-17 18:47                         ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2012-01-17 19:43                           ` Malahal Naineni
2011-11-14 16:29         ` Trond Myklebust
2011-11-13 16:42       ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-11-13 16:45         ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-11-13 18:25           ` Matthew Treinish
2011-11-13 18:06       ` Matthew Treinish
2011-11-14  9:09         ` Tigran Mkrtchyan
2011-11-14 21:47           ` Matthew Treinish
2011-11-15  6:49         ` Trond Myklebust
2011-11-15 22:38           ` Matthew Treinish

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