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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>
Cc: Simo Sorce <simo@redhat.com>,
	Linux NFS Mailing list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] nfs-service: Added the starting of gssproxy
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:34:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140922223423.GA29932@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5420911D.6080506@RedHat.com>

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 05:14:05PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
> 
> 
> On 09/22/2014 04:44 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 03:43:09PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 09/22/2014 03:26 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:20:07 -0400
> >>> Steve Dickson <steved@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Added the gssproxy.service to both the Wants= and
> >>>> Atfers= lines, before the rpc-svcgssd.service. There
> >>>> are  ConditionPathExists= lines in the rpc-svcgssd.service
> >>>> unit which will stop the rpc.svcgssd daemon from
> >>>> starting when the gssproxy daemon is already running.
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Steve Dickson <steved@redhat.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>>>  systemd/nfs-server.service | 5 +++--
> >>>>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/systemd/nfs-server.service b/systemd/nfs-server.service
> >>>> index 2fa7387..c740fa2 100644
> >>>> --- a/systemd/nfs-server.service
> >>>> +++ b/systemd/nfs-server.service
> >>>> @@ -2,12 +2,13 @@
> >>>>  Description=NFS server and services
> >>>>  Requires= network.target proc-fs-nfsd.mount rpcbind.target
> >>>>  Requires= nfs-mountd.service
> >>>> -Wants=rpc-statd.service nfs-idmapd.service rpc-gssd.service
> >>>> rpc-svcgssd.service +Wants=rpc-statd.service nfs-idmapd.service 
> >>>> +Wants=rpc-gssd.service  
> >>>>  Wants=rpc-statd-notify.service
> >>>>  
> >>>>  After= network.target proc-fs-nfsd.mount rpcbind.target
> >>>> nfs-mountd.service After= nfs-idmapd.service rpc-statd.service
> >>>> -After= rpc-gssd.service rpc-svcgssd.service
> >>>> +After= rpc-gssd.service gssproxy.service rpc-svcgssd.service
> >>>>  Before= rpc-statd-notify.service
> >>>>  
> >>>>  Wants=nfs-config.service
> >>>
> >>> I think you really need to insure that the modules are loaded before
> >>> any of the server services are started, perhaps adding a unit file that
> >>> exec's modprobe and has "Before: gssproxy.service rpc-svcgssd.service"
> >>> in it ?
> >> I really don't think its needed... From my testing it appears 
> >> gssproxy is always being started and rpc.svcgssd is not... 
> > 
> > Huh.  Well rpc-svcgssd.service has var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount as both
> > "Requires=" and "After=", so rpc-svcgssd.service will never run
> > without first running var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount, which will load
> > sunrpc.  But I don't see where auth_rpcgss is getting loaded.  And I
> > don't see what ensures anything happening before gssproxy runs.
> It happens during the mount on the client and when the server
> is started. 
> 
> > 
> > We want to make sure your testing's not just getting lucky on the
> > startup order.
> The reason it working is because rpc.gssd is being started on the server 
> these days for callbacks and the After= line in rpc-svcgssd.service is being 
> executed before the ConditionPathExists which cause rpc.svcgssd not to start.

nfs-utils$ grep After systemd/rpc-svcgssd.service 
After=var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount
After=gssproxy.service
After=nfs-config.service

There doesn't seem to be an After= line referring to rpc.gssd.

> So when gssproxy.service does it's "Before=nfs-secure.service nfs-secure-server.service"
> line everything is loaded before gssproxy start... 

That line only makes gss-proxy start before those other things.

> I'm think gssproxy.service just needs to the put the Wants and After=
> var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount lines, instead of that Before line.. 

That would make sure sunrpc's loaded, but not auth_rpcgss.

> >> Plus, from my understanding...  loading module from a service 
> >> file is a big no no! People were having problems with
> >> way back when... 
> > 
> > Any pointers?  Google's not finding me anything.
> Search the the Fedora bz's when systemd first came out... 

All I can find is:

	https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699040#c16

	Btw afaik modules should be loaded via autoloading based on bus
	information, or via /etc/modules-load.d/*.conf. and unloading a
	module from the kernel should not be done except for debugging
	purposes so loading all these modules is it really necessary?

Which I agree with--modules should normally load on demand when we need
them, and we should have an explanation for exceptions.

But here we have a pretty reasonable explanation (we need to know
on startup whether a certain module has a certain feature, and we have
to modprobe to do that).  I don't see any blanket prohibition against
loading modules.

OK, and in 702707 there's a request for support of the monolithic kernel
case, but that's easy, we just allow the modprobe to fail in that case.

--b.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-22 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-22 19:20 [PATCH 0/2] Use the gssproxy damon for GSSAPI credentials (v3) Steve Dickson
2014-09-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 1/2] nfs-service: Added the starting of gssproxy Steve Dickson
2014-09-22 19:26   ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-22 19:43     ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-22 20:44       ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-22 21:14         ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-22 21:32           ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-22 22:57             ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23  0:19               ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23  1:19                 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23 12:52                   ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 14:58                     ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23 15:08                       ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 19:29                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 19:40                       ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 19:51                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-22 22:34           ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2014-09-22 23:58             ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23  0:26               ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23  1:55                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23  2:08                   ` NeilBrown
2014-09-23  2:11                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 19:23                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 20:17                         ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23 20:25                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 21:15                             ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-24 15:07                               ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-24 15:15                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-24 15:23                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-24 15:30                                   ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23 12:48                     ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 15:20                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 16:00                         ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 16:12                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 16:57                             ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 12:46                   ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 15:06                   ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23 15:16                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 15:52                       ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23 16:05                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23  2:01             ` NeilBrown
2014-09-22 19:40   ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-22 19:46     ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-22 19:53       ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-22 20:00         ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-22 20:02           ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23  1:42           ` NeilBrown
2014-09-23  2:09             ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23  2:55               ` NeilBrown
2014-09-23 12:45             ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 2/2] rpc.svcgssd: the build of rpc.svcgssd is off by default Steve Dickson
2014-09-22 19:43   ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-22 19:50     ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-22 20:21       ` J. Bruce Fields

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