From: Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Simo Sorce <simo@redhat.com>,
Linux NFS Mailing list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] nfs-service: Added the starting of gssproxy
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:58:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5420B78D.6040704@RedHat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140922223423.GA29932@fieldses.org>
On 09/22/2014 06:34 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 05:14:05PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 09/22/2014 04:44 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 03:43:09PM -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 09/22/2014 03:26 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:20:07 -0400
>>>>> Steve Dickson <steved@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Added the gssproxy.service to both the Wants= and
>>>>>> Atfers= lines, before the rpc-svcgssd.service. There
>>>>>> are ConditionPathExists= lines in the rpc-svcgssd.service
>>>>>> unit which will stop the rpc.svcgssd daemon from
>>>>>> starting when the gssproxy daemon is already running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Steve Dickson <steved@redhat.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> systemd/nfs-server.service | 5 +++--
>>>>>> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/systemd/nfs-server.service b/systemd/nfs-server.service
>>>>>> index 2fa7387..c740fa2 100644
>>>>>> --- a/systemd/nfs-server.service
>>>>>> +++ b/systemd/nfs-server.service
>>>>>> @@ -2,12 +2,13 @@
>>>>>> Description=NFS server and services
>>>>>> Requires= network.target proc-fs-nfsd.mount rpcbind.target
>>>>>> Requires= nfs-mountd.service
>>>>>> -Wants=rpc-statd.service nfs-idmapd.service rpc-gssd.service
>>>>>> rpc-svcgssd.service +Wants=rpc-statd.service nfs-idmapd.service
>>>>>> +Wants=rpc-gssd.service
>>>>>> Wants=rpc-statd-notify.service
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After= network.target proc-fs-nfsd.mount rpcbind.target
>>>>>> nfs-mountd.service After= nfs-idmapd.service rpc-statd.service
>>>>>> -After= rpc-gssd.service rpc-svcgssd.service
>>>>>> +After= rpc-gssd.service gssproxy.service rpc-svcgssd.service
>>>>>> Before= rpc-statd-notify.service
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wants=nfs-config.service
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you really need to insure that the modules are loaded before
>>>>> any of the server services are started, perhaps adding a unit file that
>>>>> exec's modprobe and has "Before: gssproxy.service rpc-svcgssd.service"
>>>>> in it ?
>>>> I really don't think its needed... From my testing it appears
>>>> gssproxy is always being started and rpc.svcgssd is not...
>>>
>>> Huh. Well rpc-svcgssd.service has var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount as both
>>> "Requires=" and "After=", so rpc-svcgssd.service will never run
>>> without first running var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount, which will load
>>> sunrpc. But I don't see where auth_rpcgss is getting loaded. And I
>>> don't see what ensures anything happening before gssproxy runs.
>> It happens during the mount on the client and when the server
>> is started.
>>
>>>
>>> We want to make sure your testing's not just getting lucky on the
>>> startup order.
>> The reason it working is because rpc.gssd is being started on the server
>> these days for callbacks and the After= line in rpc-svcgssd.service is being
>> executed before the ConditionPathExists which cause rpc.svcgssd not to start.
>
> nfs-utils$ grep After systemd/rpc-svcgssd.service
> After=var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount
> After=gssproxy.service
> After=nfs-config.service
>
> There doesn't seem to be an After= line referring to rpc.gssd.
No, why should there be? There is After= line referring to rpc.gssd
in nfs-server.service
grep After systemd/nfs-server.service
After= network.target proc-fs-nfsd.mount rpcbind.target nfs-mountd.service
After= nfs-idmapd.service rpc-statd.service
After= rpc-gssd.service rpc-svcgssd.service
After=nfs-config.service
So when the server starts,rpc.gssd will start and rpc.svcgssd will start
if gssproxy is not enable and there is a key tab.
>
>> So when gssproxy.service does it's "Before=nfs-secure.service nfs-secure-server.service"
>> line everything is loaded before gssproxy start...
>
> That line only makes gss-proxy start before those other things.
Right, which will load the sunrpc modules.
>
>> I'm think gssproxy.service just needs to the put the Wants and After=
>> var-lib-nfs-rpc_pipefs.mount lines, instead of that Before line..
>
> That would make sure sunrpc's loaded, but not auth_rpcgss.
On the client side the mount -o sec=krb5? loads auth_rpcgss module.
Maybe the loading of nfsd loads the module? But I don't think that
module has to be loaded for any of the gss daemons (gssd, svcgssd or
gssproxy) to start successfully...
>
>>>> Plus, from my understanding... loading module from a service
>>>> file is a big no no! People were having problems with
>>>> way back when...
>>>
>>> Any pointers? Google's not finding me anything.
>> Search the the Fedora bz's when systemd first came out...
>
> All I can find is:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699040#c16
>
> Btw afaik modules should be loaded via autoloading based on bus
> information, or via /etc/modules-load.d/*.conf. and unloading a
> module from the kernel should not be done except for debugging
> purposes so loading all these modules is it really necessary?
>
> Which I agree with--modules should normally load on demand when we need
> them, and we should have an explanation for exceptions.
Yes, this was the conversation I was referring to.. Thank you
for digging it out..
>
> But here we have a pretty reasonable explanation (we need to know
> on startup whether a certain module has a certain feature, and we have
> to modprobe to do that). I don't see any blanket prohibition against
> loading modules.
Lets talk with the systemd people to see what they say...
steved.
>
> OK, and in 702707 there's a request for support of the monolithic kernel
> case, but that's easy, we just allow the modprobe to fail in that case.
>
> --b.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-22 23:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-22 19:20 [PATCH 0/2] Use the gssproxy damon for GSSAPI credentials (v3) Steve Dickson
2014-09-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 1/2] nfs-service: Added the starting of gssproxy Steve Dickson
2014-09-22 19:26 ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-22 19:43 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-22 20:44 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-22 21:14 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-22 21:32 ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-22 22:57 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23 0:19 ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 1:19 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23 12:52 ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 14:58 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23 15:08 ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 19:29 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 19:40 ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 19:51 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-22 22:34 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-22 23:58 ` Steve Dickson [this message]
2014-09-23 0:26 ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 1:55 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 2:08 ` NeilBrown
2014-09-23 2:11 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 19:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 20:17 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23 20:25 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 21:15 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-24 15:07 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-24 15:15 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-24 15:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-24 15:30 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23 12:48 ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 15:20 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 16:00 ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 16:12 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 16:57 ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 12:46 ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-23 15:06 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23 15:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 15:52 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23 16:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 2:01 ` NeilBrown
2014-09-22 19:40 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-22 19:46 ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-22 19:53 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-22 20:00 ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-22 20:02 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-23 1:42 ` NeilBrown
2014-09-23 2:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-23 2:55 ` NeilBrown
2014-09-23 12:45 ` Simo Sorce
2014-09-22 19:20 ` [PATCH 2/2] rpc.svcgssd: the build of rpc.svcgssd is off by default Steve Dickson
2014-09-22 19:43 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-09-22 19:50 ` Steve Dickson
2014-09-22 20:21 ` J. Bruce Fields
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