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From: Chao Leng <lengchao@huawei.com>
To: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>, <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nvme-rdma: set ack timeout of RoCE to 262ms
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 17:12:54 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <328a807f-bfaf-b279-69c5-09be179891ac@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c86a6cea-09b5-c04c-aa7b-adc6a457acf6@huawei.com>

Hi, Max
     Can you give some comment? Thank you.

On 2022/8/29 21:15, Chao Leng wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2022/8/29 17:06, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>>
>>>>>> If so, which devices did you use ?
>>>>> The host HBA is Mellanox Technologies MT27800 Family [ConnectX-5];
>>>>> The switch and storage are huawei equipments.
>>>>> In principle, switches and storage devices from other vendors
>>>>> have the same problem.
>>>>> If you think it is necessary, we can test the other vendor switchs
>>>>> and linux target.
>>>>
>>>> Why is the 2s default chosen, what is the downside for a 250ms seconds ack timeout? and why is nvme-rdma different than all other kernel rdma
>>> The downside is redundant retransmit if the packets delay more than
>>> 250ms in the networks and finally reaches the receiver.
>>> Only in extreme scenarios, the packet delay may exceed 250 ms.
>>
>> Sounds like the default needs to be changed if it only addresses the
>> extreme scenarios...
>>
>>>> consumers that it needs to set this explicitly?
>>> The real-time transaction services are sensitive to the delay.
>>> nvme-rdma will be used in real-time transactions.
>>> The real-time transaction services do not allow that the packets
>>> delay more than 250ms in the networks.
>>> So we need to set the ack timeout to 262ms.
>>
>> While I don't disagree with the change itself, I do disagree why this
>> needs to be driven by nvme-rdma locally. If all kernel rdma consumers
>> need this (and if not, I'd like to understand why), this needs to be set in the rdma core.Changing the default set in the rdma core is another option.
> But it will affect all application based on RDMA.
> Max, what do you think? Thank you.
>> .
> 
> .


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-10  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-19  7:58 [PATCH] nvme-rdma: set ack timeout of RoCE to 262ms Chao Leng
2022-08-21  6:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-08-22  9:50   ` Chao Leng
2022-08-22 15:30     ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-08-25  9:58       ` Chao Leng
2022-08-28 14:57         ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-08-29  8:05           ` Chao Leng
2022-08-29  9:06             ` Sagi Grimberg
2022-08-29 13:15               ` Chao Leng
2022-10-10  9:12                 ` Chao Leng [this message]
2022-10-14  0:05                   ` Max Gurtovoy
2022-10-14  2:15                     ` Chao Leng
2022-11-16  2:24                       ` Chao Leng

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