From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: John David Anglin <dave.anglin@bell.net>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
John David Anglin <dave@parisc-linux.org>,
Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN on PA-RISC
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 19:27:09 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa37987e-568f-9716-719e-85e3da8db47@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54cb80b8-9c89-4b61-b1cd-1e626daf6719@bell.net>
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2024, John David Anglin wrote:
> On 2024-07-24 3:25 p.m., James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Wed, 2024-07-24 at 20:17 +0200, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Thanks for fixing the cache aliasing issues on PA-RISC in the commit
> >> 72d95924ee35c8cd16ef52f912483ee938a34d49.
> >>
> >> I think there is still one problem left - and that is
> >> ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN. Currently, it is 16, which is obviously wrong.
> > I don't think that's obvious, why is it wrong?
> I see this comment in arch/arm64/include/asm/cache.h:
>
> /*
> * Memory returned by kmalloc() may be used for DMA, so we must make
> * sure that all such allocations are cache aligned. Otherwise,
> * unrelated code may cause parts of the buffer to be read into the
> * cache before the transfer is done, causing old data to be seen by
> * the CPU.
> */
> #define ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN (128)
> #define ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN (8)
>
> L1_CACHE_BYTES is 64 on arm64.
>
> Possibly, the same can occur on parisc.
>
> Dave
L1_CACHE_BYTES is a performance hint that is used to avoid cache line
ping-pong when multiple CPUs modify nearby data.
ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN is the biggest possible cache line size to avoid DMA
data corruption. As there are some arm64 machines with 128-byte cache
line, arm64 has to define it to 128.
James said that the L2 cache on PA8800/8900 is coherent with PCI. So, I
think that ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN should be 64 (is that the L1 cache line size
on PA8800/8900?).
L1_CACHE_BYTES could be 128 to avoid ping-pong between sockets.
For ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN, there is an arm64 commit
9382bc44b5f58ccee375f08f518e53c0280051dc, it is an optimization, so that
they can use cache line size probed at startup instead of 128. I think we
don't have to do this optimization on PA-RISC, the PA-RISC machines with
16-byte or 32-byte cache line size are old and slow - so that there is no
point in trying to optimize kmalloc pools for them.
Mikulas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-25 17:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-24 18:17 ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN on PA-RISC Mikulas Patocka
2024-07-24 18:48 ` John David Anglin
2024-07-24 19:25 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-25 16:45 ` John David Anglin
2024-07-25 17:27 ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
2024-07-25 17:43 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-25 17:46 ` Mikulas Patocka
2024-07-25 19:19 ` James Bottomley
2024-07-25 19:13 ` John David Anglin
2024-07-25 20:05 ` John David Anglin
2024-07-25 20:36 ` Mikulas Patocka
2024-07-25 21:29 ` John David Anglin
2024-07-27 10:24 ` Mikulas Patocka
2024-07-27 15:06 ` John David Anglin
2024-07-25 17:37 ` Mikulas Patocka
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