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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: "Kasireddy, Vivek" <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>,
	Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org" <intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/5] PCI/P2PDMA: Don't enforce ACS check for device functions of Intel GPUs
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 09:29:00 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250922122900.GV1391379@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4e3919c3-3d1b-4f34-a1e4-5e9e7a5e6e14@amd.com>

On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 02:25:15PM +0200, Christian König wrote:
> On 22.09.25 14:20, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 01:22:49PM +0200, Christian König wrote:
> > 
> >> Well what exactly is happening here? You have a PF assigned to the
> >> host and a VF passed through to a guest, correct?
> >>
> >> And now the PF (from the host side) wants to access a BAR of the VF?
> > 
> > Not quite.
> > 
> > It is a GPU so it has a pool of VRAM. The PF can access all VRAM and
> > the VF can access some VRAM.
> > 
> > They want to get a DMABUF handle for a bit of the VF's reachable VRAM
> > that the PF can import and use through it's own funciton.
> 
> Yeah, where's the problem? We do that all the time.

Well this is the problem:

> > The use of the VF's BAR in this series is an ugly hack. The PF never
> > actually uses the VF BAR, it just hackily converts the dma_addr_t back
> > to CPU physical and figures out where it is in the VRAM pool and then
> > uses a PF centric address for it.
> 
> Oh my, please absolutely don't do that!

Great.

> If you have a device internal connection then you need special
> handling between your PF and VF driver.

Generic VFIO can't do something like that, so they would need to make
a special variant VFIO driver.

> But I still don't have the full picture of who is using what here,
> e.g. who is providing the DMA-buf handle and who is using it?

Generic VFIO is the exporer, the xe driver is the importer.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-22 12:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250915072428.1712837-1-vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>
2025-09-15  7:21 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] PCI/P2PDMA: Don't enforce ACS check for device functions of Intel GPUs Vivek Kasireddy
2025-09-15 15:33   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2025-09-16 17:34   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-16 17:59     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-16 17:57   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-18  6:16     ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-18 12:04       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-19  6:22         ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-19 12:29           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22  6:59             ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-22 11:22               ` Christian König
2025-09-22 12:20                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 12:25                   ` Christian König
2025-09-22 12:29                     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-09-22 13:20                       ` Christian König
2025-09-22 13:27                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 13:57                           ` Christian König
2025-09-22 14:00                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23  5:53                   ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-23  6:25                     ` Matthew Brost
2025-09-23  6:44                       ` Matthew Brost
2025-09-23  7:52                         ` Christian König
2025-09-23 12:15                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23 12:45                             ` Christian König
2025-09-23 13:12                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23 13:28                                 ` Christian König
2025-09-23 13:38                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23 13:48                                     ` Christian König
2025-09-23 23:02                                       ` Matthew Brost
2025-09-24  8:29                                         ` Christian König
2025-09-24  6:50                                       ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-24  7:21                                         ` Christian König
2025-09-25  3:56                                           ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-25 10:51                                             ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-25 11:28                                               ` Christian König
2025-09-25 13:11                                                 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-25 13:33                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-25 15:40                                                     ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-25 15:55                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-26  6:12                                                 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-23 13:36                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-23  6:01                 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-22 12:12               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-24 16:13           ` Simon Richter
2025-09-24 17:12             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-25  4:06             ` Kasireddy, Vivek

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