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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
Cc: "Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"Kasireddy, Vivek" <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>,
	"Simona Vetter" <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org" <intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Logan Gunthorpe" <logang@deltatee.com>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/5] PCI/P2PDMA: Don't enforce ACS check for device functions of Intel GPUs
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 10:29:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <863cb79a-36d1-4db5-bc76-e46812c85601@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aNMnHJwWfFPgGYbW@lstrano-desk.jf.intel.com>

On 24.09.25 01:02, Matthew Brost wrote:
>>>> What Simona agreed on is exactly what I proposed as well, that you
>>>> get a private interface for exactly that use case.
> 
> Do you have a link to the conversation with Simona? I'd lean towards a
> kernel-wide generic interface if possible.

Oh, finding that exactly mail is tricky.

IIRC she wrote something along the lines of "this should be done in a vfio/iommufd interface", but maybe my memory is a bit selective.

We can of course still leverage the DMA-buf lifetime, synchronization and other functionalities.

But this is so vfio specific that this is not going to fly as general DMA-buf interface I think.

> Regarding phys_addr_t vs. dma_addr_t, I don't have a strong opinion. But
> what about using an array of unsigned long with the order encoded
> similarly to HMM PFNs? Drivers can interpret the address portion of the
> data based on their individual use cases.

That's basically what I had in mind for replacing the sg_table.

> Also, to make this complete—do you think we'd need to teach TTM to
> understand this new type of dma-buf, like we do for SG list dma-bufs? It
> would seem a bit pointless if we just had to convert this new dma-buf
> back into an SG list to pass it along to TTM.

Using an sg_table / SG list in DMA-buf and TTM was a bad idea to begin with. At least for amdgpu we have switched over to just have that around temporary for most use cases.

What we need is a container for efficient dma_addr_t storage (e.g. using low bits for the size/order of the area). Then iterators/cursors to go over that container.

Switching between an sg_table and that new container is then just switching out the iterators.

> The scope of this seems considerably larger than the original series. It
> would be good for all stakeholders to reach an agreement so Vivek can
> move forward.

Yeah, agree.

Regards,
Christian.

> 
> Matt
> 
>>>
>>> A "private" interface to exchange phys_addr_t between at least
>>> VFIO/KVM/iommufd - sure no complaint with that.
>>>
>>> Jason
>>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-24  8:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250915072428.1712837-1-vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>
2025-09-15  7:21 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] PCI/P2PDMA: Don't enforce ACS check for device functions of Intel GPUs Vivek Kasireddy
2025-09-15 15:33   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2025-09-16 17:34   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-16 17:59     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-16 17:57   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-18  6:16     ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-18 12:04       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-19  6:22         ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-19 12:29           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22  6:59             ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-22 11:22               ` Christian König
2025-09-22 12:20                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 12:25                   ` Christian König
2025-09-22 12:29                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 13:20                       ` Christian König
2025-09-22 13:27                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 13:57                           ` Christian König
2025-09-22 14:00                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23  5:53                   ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-23  6:25                     ` Matthew Brost
2025-09-23  6:44                       ` Matthew Brost
2025-09-23  7:52                         ` Christian König
2025-09-23 12:15                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23 12:45                             ` Christian König
2025-09-23 13:12                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23 13:28                                 ` Christian König
2025-09-23 13:38                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23 13:48                                     ` Christian König
2025-09-23 23:02                                       ` Matthew Brost
2025-09-24  8:29                                         ` Christian König [this message]
2025-09-24  6:50                                       ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-24  7:21                                         ` Christian König
2025-09-25  3:56                                           ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-25 10:51                                             ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-25 11:28                                               ` Christian König
2025-09-25 13:11                                                 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-25 13:33                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-25 15:40                                                     ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-25 15:55                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-26  6:12                                                 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-23 13:36                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-23  6:01                 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-22 12:12               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-24 16:13           ` Simon Richter
2025-09-24 17:12             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-25  4:06             ` Kasireddy, Vivek

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