From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>
Cc: "Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@nvidia.com>,
"Kasireddy, Vivek" <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>,
"Simona Vetter" <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org" <intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Logan Gunthorpe" <logang@deltatee.com>,
"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/5] PCI/P2PDMA: Don't enforce ACS check for device functions of Intel GPUs
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 10:29:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <863cb79a-36d1-4db5-bc76-e46812c85601@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aNMnHJwWfFPgGYbW@lstrano-desk.jf.intel.com>
On 24.09.25 01:02, Matthew Brost wrote:
>>>> What Simona agreed on is exactly what I proposed as well, that you
>>>> get a private interface for exactly that use case.
>
> Do you have a link to the conversation with Simona? I'd lean towards a
> kernel-wide generic interface if possible.
Oh, finding that exactly mail is tricky.
IIRC she wrote something along the lines of "this should be done in a vfio/iommufd interface", but maybe my memory is a bit selective.
We can of course still leverage the DMA-buf lifetime, synchronization and other functionalities.
But this is so vfio specific that this is not going to fly as general DMA-buf interface I think.
> Regarding phys_addr_t vs. dma_addr_t, I don't have a strong opinion. But
> what about using an array of unsigned long with the order encoded
> similarly to HMM PFNs? Drivers can interpret the address portion of the
> data based on their individual use cases.
That's basically what I had in mind for replacing the sg_table.
> Also, to make this complete—do you think we'd need to teach TTM to
> understand this new type of dma-buf, like we do for SG list dma-bufs? It
> would seem a bit pointless if we just had to convert this new dma-buf
> back into an SG list to pass it along to TTM.
Using an sg_table / SG list in DMA-buf and TTM was a bad idea to begin with. At least for amdgpu we have switched over to just have that around temporary for most use cases.
What we need is a container for efficient dma_addr_t storage (e.g. using low bits for the size/order of the area). Then iterators/cursors to go over that container.
Switching between an sg_table and that new container is then just switching out the iterators.
> The scope of this seems considerably larger than the original series. It
> would be good for all stakeholders to reach an agreement so Vivek can
> move forward.
Yeah, agree.
Regards,
Christian.
>
> Matt
>
>>>
>>> A "private" interface to exchange phys_addr_t between at least
>>> VFIO/KVM/iommufd - sure no complaint with that.
>>>
>>> Jason
>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-24 8:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20250915072428.1712837-1-vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>
2025-09-15 7:21 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] PCI/P2PDMA: Don't enforce ACS check for device functions of Intel GPUs Vivek Kasireddy
2025-09-15 15:33 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2025-09-16 17:34 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-16 17:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-16 17:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-18 6:16 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-18 12:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-19 6:22 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-19 12:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 6:59 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-22 11:22 ` Christian König
2025-09-22 12:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 12:25 ` Christian König
2025-09-22 12:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 13:20 ` Christian König
2025-09-22 13:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 13:57 ` Christian König
2025-09-22 14:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23 5:53 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-23 6:25 ` Matthew Brost
2025-09-23 6:44 ` Matthew Brost
2025-09-23 7:52 ` Christian König
2025-09-23 12:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23 12:45 ` Christian König
2025-09-23 13:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23 13:28 ` Christian König
2025-09-23 13:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23 13:48 ` Christian König
2025-09-23 23:02 ` Matthew Brost
2025-09-24 8:29 ` Christian König [this message]
2025-09-24 6:50 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-24 7:21 ` Christian König
2025-09-25 3:56 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-25 10:51 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-25 11:28 ` Christian König
2025-09-25 13:11 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-25 13:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-25 15:40 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-25 15:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-26 6:12 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-23 13:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-23 6:01 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-22 12:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-24 16:13 ` Simon Richter
2025-09-24 17:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-25 4:06 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
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