From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: "Matthew Brost" <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
"Kasireddy, Vivek" <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>,
"Simona Vetter" <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org" <intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Logan Gunthorpe" <logang@deltatee.com>,
"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/5] PCI/P2PDMA: Don't enforce ACS check for device functions of Intel GPUs
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 10:38:39 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250923133839.GL1391379@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8da25244-be1e-4d88-86bc-5a6f377bdbc1@amd.com>
On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 03:28:53PM +0200, Christian König wrote:
> On 23.09.25 15:12, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> >> When you want to communicate addresses in a device specific address
> >> space you need a device specific type for that and not abuse
> >> phys_addr_t.
> >
> > I'm not talking about abusing phys_addr_t, I'm talking about putting a
> > legitimate CPU address in there.
> >
> > You can argue it is hack in Xe to reverse engineer the VRAM offset
> > from a CPU physical, and I would be sympathetic, but it does allow
> > VFIO to be general not specialized to Xe.
>
> No, exactly that doesn't work for all use cases. That's why I'm
> pushing back so hard on using phys_addr_t or CPU addresses.
>
> See the CPU address is only valid temporary because the VF BAR is
> only a window into the device memory.
I know, generally yes.
But there should be no way that a VFIO VF driver in the hypervisor
knows what is currently mapped to the VF's BAR. The only way I can
make sense of what Xe is doing here is if the VF BAR is a static
aperture of the VRAM..
Would be nice to know the details.
> What Simona agreed on is exactly what I proposed as well, that you
> get a private interface for exactly that use case.
A "private" interface to exchange phys_addr_t between at least
VFIO/KVM/iommufd - sure no complaint with that.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-23 13:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20250915072428.1712837-1-vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>
2025-09-15 7:21 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] PCI/P2PDMA: Don't enforce ACS check for device functions of Intel GPUs Vivek Kasireddy
2025-09-15 15:33 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2025-09-16 17:34 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-09-16 17:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-16 17:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-18 6:16 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-18 12:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-19 6:22 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-19 12:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 6:59 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-22 11:22 ` Christian König
2025-09-22 12:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 12:25 ` Christian König
2025-09-22 12:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 13:20 ` Christian König
2025-09-22 13:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 13:57 ` Christian König
2025-09-22 14:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23 5:53 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-23 6:25 ` Matthew Brost
2025-09-23 6:44 ` Matthew Brost
2025-09-23 7:52 ` Christian König
2025-09-23 12:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23 12:45 ` Christian König
2025-09-23 13:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-23 13:28 ` Christian König
2025-09-23 13:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-09-23 13:48 ` Christian König
2025-09-23 23:02 ` Matthew Brost
2025-09-24 8:29 ` Christian König
2025-09-24 6:50 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-24 7:21 ` Christian König
2025-09-25 3:56 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-25 10:51 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-25 11:28 ` Christian König
2025-09-25 13:11 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-25 13:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-25 15:40 ` Thomas Hellström
2025-09-25 15:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-26 6:12 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-23 13:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-09-23 6:01 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-09-22 12:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-24 16:13 ` Simon Richter
2025-09-24 17:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-25 4:06 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
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