From: Jiebin Sun <jiebin.sun@intel.com>
To: namhyung@kernel.org, acme@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
peterz@infradead.org
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com,
jolsa@kernel.org, irogers@google.com, adrian.hunter@intel.com,
james.clark@linaro.org, tianyou.li@intel.com,
wangyang.guo@intel.com, dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com,
thomas.falcon@intel.com, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jiebin Sun <jiebin.sun@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/14] perf c2c: add a function view
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 16:39:24 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260720083924.2735509-1-jiebin.sun@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alsH9PFMljK5eUEJ@z2>
Hi Namhyung,
Thanks a lot for the detailed suggestions -- agreed on both points, and I
wanted to get your thoughts on the reworked layout before sending the next
version.
> I think it's more like "code-address" view rather than "function" view.
> How about organizing the output something like below?
>
> L1: function
> L2: cache line
> L3: shared functions
You're right that keying level 1 on the code address made it read like a
"code-address view". I plan to rework it so every level that names a
function aggregates all of that function's code addresses into a single
entry, together with the per-level indentation you described.
For the lower levels I first tried the cacheline-then-functions layout you
suggested:
L1: function
L2: cache line
L3: sharing functions
but on real data we hit one problem: when the level-1 function touches many
cache lines, the same contending function shows up under many of those
level-2 cache lines. To find out which function modifies the line the most
-- the one most worth fixing -- we then have to aggregate that function's
writes across all those cache lines ourselves, which is the same manual
work the cache line view already leaves to us.
So I am considering putting the contending function at level 2 and the
cache line at level 3 instead:
L1: function (reads the line and pays the HITM penalty)
L2: contending function (writes/modifies the line, causing the HITM)
L3: the shared cache lines
For example, expanding dequeue_pushable_task and its writers:
Cycles Store
% count Function / Contending function / Cache line
------------------------------------------------------------
- 16.54% 419 - [k] dequeue_pushable_task
145 - [k] pull_rt_task
145 0xff2d0082809da080
139 - [k] enqueue_pushable_task
70 0xff2d00a2071f9640
69 0xff2d0082809da000
133 - [k] cpupri_set
133 0xff2d0082809da080
Here enqueue_pushable_task contends over two cache lines, but it stays a
single level-2 row with its total (139) shown, and the individual cache
lines are underneath -- so the top writers are ranked directly, with no
manual summing.
The key difference from the earlier version is that the code addresses and
function offsets are no longer shown at level 1 and level 2. Those made the
view read like a code-address view; instead the main view keeps only the
concise, at-a-glance information (which function pays, which function it
contends with, and the cache lines involved), and the detailed code
addresses / offsets stay in the per-cacheline detail view ('d').
Once we settle on the layout, I'll send the updated version for review.
Thanks,
Jiebin
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Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-26 7:03 [PATCH 00/14] perf c2c: add a function view Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:03 ` [PATCH 01/14] perf c2c: extract shared data structures into c2c.h Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:13 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-16 17:51 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-07-17 1:43 ` Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:03 ` [PATCH 02/14] perf c2c: add function view browser skeleton Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:11 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-26 7:03 ` [PATCH 03/14] perf c2c: add function view type definitions and helpers Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:14 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-26 7:03 ` [PATCH 04/14] perf c2c: add column format infrastructure for function view Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:03 ` [PATCH 05/14] perf c2c: add column entry functions " Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:03 ` [PATCH 06/14] perf c2c: add comparison functions for function view sorting Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:22 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-26 7:03 ` [PATCH 07/14] perf c2c: add dimension definitions and format creation Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:23 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-26 7:03 ` [PATCH 08/14] perf c2c: add HPP list parsing for function view histograms Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:16 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-26 7:03 ` [PATCH 09/14] perf c2c: add stats merging and memory management helpers Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:17 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-26 7:03 ` [PATCH 10/14] perf c2c: add hierarchy entry creation and lookup functions Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:19 ` sashiko-bot
2026-06-26 7:03 ` [PATCH 11/14] perf c2c: add function view hierarchy builder Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:03 ` [PATCH 12/14] perf c2c: add function view browser UI Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:03 ` [PATCH 13/14] perf c2c: add TAB key to switch to function view Jiebin Sun
2026-06-26 7:03 ` [PATCH 14/14] perf c2c: document function view in perf-c2c man page Jiebin Sun
2026-07-07 0:41 ` [PATCH 00/14] perf c2c: add a function view Namhyung Kim
2026-07-10 8:49 ` Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 21:54 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-07-13 9:22 ` Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 " Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] perf c2c: extract shared data structures into c2c.h Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 8:54 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] perf c2c: add function view browser skeleton Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 8:50 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] perf c2c: add function view type definitions and helpers Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] perf c2c: add column format infrastructure for function view Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 9:00 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] perf c2c: add column entry functions " Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] perf c2c: add comparison functions for function view sorting Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] perf c2c: add dimension definitions and format creation Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] perf c2c: add HPP list parsing for function view histograms Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 9:01 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] perf c2c: add stats merging and memory management helpers Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] perf c2c: add hierarchy entry creation and lookup functions Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] perf c2c: add function view hierarchy builder Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 9:01 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] perf c2c: add function view browser UI Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] perf c2c: add TAB key to switch to function view Jiebin Sun
2026-07-10 8:42 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] perf c2c: document function view in perf-c2c man page Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] perf c2c: add a function view Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] perf c2c: extract shared data structures into c2c.h Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:14 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] perf c2c: add function view browser skeleton Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:15 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] perf c2c: add function view type definitions and helpers Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:15 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] perf c2c: add column format infrastructure for function view Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:21 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] perf c2c: add column entry functions " Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:19 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] perf c2c: add comparison functions for function view sorting Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] perf c2c: add dimension definitions and format creation Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] perf c2c: add HPP list parsing for function view histograms Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:22 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] perf c2c: add stats merging and memory management helpers Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] perf c2c: add hierarchy entry creation and lookup functions Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:20 ` sashiko-bot
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] perf c2c: add function view hierarchy builder Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] perf c2c: add function view browser UI Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] perf c2c: add TAB key to switch to function view Jiebin Sun
2026-07-17 2:05 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] perf c2c: document function view in perf-c2c man page Jiebin Sun
2026-07-18 4:58 ` [PATCH v3 00/14] perf c2c: add a function view Namhyung Kim
2026-07-20 8:39 ` Jiebin Sun [this message]
2026-07-23 5:40 ` Namhyung Kim
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