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From: Marc MERLIN <marc@merlins.org>
To: Wol's lists <antlists@youngman.org.uk>
Cc: Phil Turmel <philip@turmel.org>,
	Kay Diederichs <kay.diederichs@uni-konstanz.de>,
	Andreas Klauer <Andreas.Klauer@metamorpher.de>,
	Adam Goryachev <mailinglists@websitemanagers.com.au>,
	Roger Heflin <rogerheflin@gmail.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: force remapping a pending sector in sw raid5 array
Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2018 14:36:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180209223613.GO9565@merlins.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3345d6f0-80d0-bfaf-9974-a7472d499117@youngman.org.uk>

On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 10:07:57PM +0000, Wol's lists wrote:
> On 09/02/18 21:22, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> >Interesting. I figured once a sector went pending once, it would not 
> >actually be re-used and
> >be remapped on the next write. Seems like it didn't happen here.
> 
> Because there's all sorts of reasons a sector can go pending.
> 
> My favourite example is to compare it to DRAM. DRAM needs refreshing 
> every couple of seconds, otherwise it loses its contents and cannot be 
> read, but it's perfectly okay to rewrite and re-use it.
 
You're correct. The density of drives is so high now that writing a block
affects the ones around it.

> Likewise, the magnetism in a drive can decay such that the data is 
> unreadable, but there's nothing actually wrong with the drive. (If the 
> data next door is repeatedly rewritten, the rewrite can "leak" and trash 
> nearby data ...) The decay time for that should be years.

Right. That's why I'm unhappy that it happened within a week of unpacking
the drives and 2 out of 5 had problems already.

> The problem of course is when the problem has a decay time measured in 
> minutes or hours. The rewrite succeeds, so the sector doesn't get 
> remapped, but when you next read it it has died :-(

Speaking of this, I still haven't gotten the drive to actually remap
anything yet.
On that 2nd drive, I'm seeing 7 pending sectors, and can't trigger any error
or remapping on them:
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always -       7

# 1  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%       519         569442000
# 2  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%       519         569442000
# 3  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       90%       518         569442000
# 4  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       508         -
# 5  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       484         -
# 6  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       460         -
# 7  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       436         -
# 8  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%       413         569441985
# 9  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       90%       409         569441990
#10  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       90%       409         569441985
#11  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       90%       409         569441991
#12  Extended offline    Completed: read failure       90%       409         569441985

So, running badblocks over that range should help, right?

But no, I get nothing:
myth:~# badblocks -fsvn -b512 /dev/sdf  569942000 569001000
/dev/sdf is apparently in use by the system; badblocks forced anyway.
Checking for bad blocks in non-destructive read-write mode
From block 569001000 to 569942000
Checking for bad blocks (non-destructive read-write test)
Testing with random pattern: done                                                 
Pass completed, 0 bad blocks found. (0/0/0 errors)

In some way, unless I'm reading the wrong blocks, that would mean the blocks are good again?

But smart still shows 
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       7

and a short offline test immediately shows
# 1  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%       519         569442000

Clearly, I still have some things to learn.

Marc
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-09 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-06 18:14 force remapping a pending sector in sw raid5 array Marc MERLIN
2018-02-06 18:59 ` Reindl Harald
2018-02-06 19:36   ` Marc MERLIN
2018-02-06 20:03 ` Andreas Klauer
2018-02-06 21:51 ` Adam Goryachev
2018-02-06 22:02   ` Marc MERLIN
2018-02-06 22:31     ` Roger Heflin
2018-02-06 22:46       ` Marc MERLIN
2018-02-07  4:29   ` Marc MERLIN
2018-02-07  9:42 ` Kay Diederichs
2018-02-09 19:29   ` Marc MERLIN
2018-02-09 19:57     ` Kay Diederichs
2018-02-09 20:02     ` Roger Heflin
2018-02-09 20:13     ` Phil Turmel
2018-02-09 20:29       ` Marc MERLIN
2018-02-09 20:44         ` Phil Turmel
2018-02-09 21:22           ` Marc MERLIN
2018-02-09 22:07             ` Wol's lists
2018-02-09 22:36               ` Marc MERLIN [this message]
2018-02-09 20:52         ` Kay Diederichs
2018-02-11 20:52           ` Roger Heflin
2018-02-09 21:17         ` Kay Diederichs
2018-02-10 21:43       ` Mateusz Korniak
2018-02-11 15:41         ` Marc MERLIN
2018-02-11 16:41           ` Marc MERLIN
2018-02-11 17:13         ` Phil Turmel
2018-02-11 18:02           ` Wols Lists
2018-02-12 10:43           ` Mateusz Korniak
2018-02-12 15:29             ` Phil Turmel
2018-02-12 16:49               ` Marc MERLIN
2018-02-12 17:16                 ` Phil Turmel
2018-02-12 17:30                   ` Marc MERLIN

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