From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
To: Patrick Mansfield <patmans@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Lars Marowsky-Bree <lmb@suse.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Multi-path IO in 2.5/2.6 ?
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:20:38 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200209111420.g8BEKdx01979@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Message from Patrick Mansfield <patmans@us.ibm.com> of "Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:26:50 PDT." <20020910122650.A13738@eng2.beaverton.ibm.com>
patmans@us.ibm.com said:
> The scsi multi-path code is not in 2.5.x, and I doubt it will be
> accepted without the support of James and others.
I haven't said "no" yet (and Doug and Jens haven't said anything). I did say
when the patches first surfaced that I didn't like the idea of replacing
Scsi_Device with Scsi_Path at the bottom and the concomitant changes to all
the Low Level Drivers which want to support multi-pathing. If this is to go
in the SCSI subsystem it has to be self contained, transparent and easily
isolated. That means the LLDs shouldn't have to be multipath aware.
I think we all agree:
1) that multi-path in SCSI isn't the way to go in the long term because other
devices may have a use for the infrastructure.
2) that the scsi-error handler is the big problem
3) that errors (both medium and transport) may need to be propagated
immediately up the block layer in order for multi-path to be handled
efficiently.
Although I outlined my ideas for a rework of the error handler, they got lost
in the noise of the abort vs reset debate. These are some of the salient
features that will help in this case
- no retries from the tasklet.
- Quiesce from above, not below (commands return while eh processes, so we
begin with the first error and don't have to wait for all commands to return
or error out)
- It's the object of the error handler to return all commands to the block
layer for requeue and reorder as quickly as possible. They have to be
returned with an indication from the error handler that it would like them
retried. This indication can be propagated up (although I haven't given
thought how to do that). Any commands that are sent down to probe the device
are generated from within the error handler thread (no device probing with
live commands).
What other features do you need on the eh wishlist?
James
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[not found] <200209091458.g89Evv806056@localhost.localdomain>
2002-09-09 16:56 ` [RFC] Multi-path IO in 2.5/2.6 ? Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-09 17:34 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-09 18:40 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-10 13:02 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-10 16:03 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 16:27 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-10 0:08 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 7:55 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-10 13:04 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-10 16:20 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 13:16 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-10 19:26 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-11 14:20 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2002-09-11 19:17 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-11 19:37 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-11 19:52 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-11 21:38 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-09-11 20:30 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-11 21:17 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-10 17:21 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-09-10 18:42 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 19:00 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-09-10 19:37 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-21 15:16 [PATCH] turn scsi_allocate_device into readable code Christoph Hellwig
2002-11-21 15:36 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 15:39 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-21 15:49 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 16:12 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-21 17:08 ` [PATCH] current scsi-misc-2.5 include files Patrick Mansfield
[not found] <dledford@redhat.com>
2002-10-02 0:28 ` PATCH: scsi device queue depth adjustability patch Doug Ledford
2002-10-02 1:16 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-02 1:41 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-02 13:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-02 21:41 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-02 22:18 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-02 23:19 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-03 12:46 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-03 16:35 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-04 1:40 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-10-03 14:25 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-03 16:41 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-03 17:00 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-16 21:35 ` scsi_scan.c question Doug Ledford
2002-10-16 21:41 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-17 0:18 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-16 21:57 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-18 15:57 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-18 0:27 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-11-18 0:36 ` aic7xxx_biosparam J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-18 2:46 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-11-18 3:20 ` aic7xxx_biosparam J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-18 3:26 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-11-18 0:43 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Andries Brouwer
2002-11-18 2:47 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-11-18 0:57 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Alan Cox
2002-11-18 2:34 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-12-21 1:22 ` scsi_scan changes Doug Ledford
2002-12-21 1:27 ` James Bottomley
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-16 19:40 [PATCH] removel useless mod use count manipulation Christoph Hellwig
2002-11-17 2:59 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-17 17:31 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-17 18:14 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-17 12:40 ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-11-17 12:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-11-17 13:38 ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-11-15 20:34 [RFC][PATCH] move dma_mask into struct device J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-16 0:19 ` Mike Anderson
2002-11-16 14:48 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-16 20:33 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-17 15:07 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 22:18 [PATCH] add request prep functions to SCSI J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 23:16 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-06 23:43 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-07 21:45 ` Mike Anderson
2002-11-06 4:24 [PATCH] fix 2.5 scsi queue depth setting Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 4:35 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 17:15 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 17:47 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 18:24 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 18:32 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 18:39 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 18:50 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 19:50 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 20:45 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-06 21:19 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 20:50 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-21 19:34 [PATCH] get rid of ->finish method for highlevel drivers Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-21 23:58 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-22 15:48 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-22 18:43 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-22 23:17 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-22 23:30 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-23 14:16 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-23 15:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-24 1:36 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-24 23:20 ` Willem Riede
2002-10-24 23:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-25 0:02 ` Willem Riede
2002-10-22 7:30 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-22 11:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-15 18:55 [patch 2.5] ips queue depths Jeffery, David
2002-10-15 19:30 ` Dave Hansen
2002-10-15 19:47 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 20:04 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-15 20:52 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 23:30 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-15 23:56 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-10-16 2:32 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-16 19:04 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-16 20:15 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-17 0:39 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-10-17 17:01 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-17 21:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-10-15 20:10 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-15 20:24 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 20:38 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-15 22:10 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-16 1:04 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-15 20:24 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-15 22:46 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 20:26 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-10-15 21:27 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-16 0:43 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-10-21 7:28 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-21 16:16 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-21 16:29 ` James Bottomley
[not found] <patmans@us.ibm.com>
2002-10-15 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH] consolidate SCSI-2 command lun setting Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-15 20:29 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-15 22:00 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-30 16:58 ` [PATCH] 2.5 current bk fix setting scsi queue depths Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-30 17:17 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-30 18:05 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-31 0:44 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-10 15:01 [PATCH] scsi host cleanup 3/3 (driver changes) Stephen Cameron
2002-10-10 16:46 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-10 16:59 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-10 20:05 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-30 21:06 [PATCH] first cut at fixing unable to requeue with no outstanding commands James Bottomley
2002-09-30 23:28 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-01 0:38 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-01 15:01 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-01 15:14 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-01 16:23 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-01 16:30 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-01 20:18 ` Inhibit auto-attach of scsi disks ? Scott Merritt
2002-10-02 0:46 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-02 1:49 ` Scott Merritt
2002-10-02 1:58 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-02 2:45 ` Scott Merritt
2002-10-02 13:40 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-24 11:35 SCSI woes (followup) Russell King
2002-09-24 13:46 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-24 13:58 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 14:29 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-24 18:16 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-24 18:18 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-24 19:01 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 19:08 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 19:21 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 19:32 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-24 20:00 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 22:23 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-24 23:04 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 22:39 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 23:14 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-24 23:26 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 23:31 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-24 23:56 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 23:33 ` Russell King
2002-09-25 0:47 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-25 8:45 ` Russell King
2002-09-25 2:18 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-25 14:41 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 23:33 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 23:45 ` Russell King
2002-09-25 0:08 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-25 8:41 ` Russell King
2002-09-25 17:22 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-25 12:46 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 17:57 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-24 18:39 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 18:49 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-03 14:35 aic7xxx sets CDR offline, how to reset? James Bottomley
2002-09-03 18:23 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 19:09 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 20:59 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-03 21:32 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 21:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-03 22:50 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 23:28 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 7:40 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-04 16:24 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-04 17:13 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-05 9:50 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-04 16:13 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-04 16:50 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-05 9:39 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-05 13:35 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-05 23:56 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-06 0:13 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-06 0:32 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-03 21:13 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 21:48 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 22:42 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 22:52 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 23:29 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 21:16 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-04 10:37 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-09-04 10:48 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-04 11:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 16:25 ` Rogier Wolff
2002-09-04 19:34 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-03 21:24 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-03 22:02 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 23:26 ` Alan Cox
2002-08-26 16:29 [RFC]: 64 bit LUN/Tags, dummy device in host_queue, host_lock <-> LLDD reentrancy Aron Zeh
2002-08-26 16:48 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-26 17:27 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-26 19:00 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-26 20:57 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-26 21:10 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-26 22:38 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-26 22:56 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-08-26 23:10 ` Doug Ledford
2002-08-28 14:38 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-26 21:15 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-12 23:38 [PATCH] 2.5.31 scsi_error.c cleanup Mike Anderson
2002-08-22 14:05 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-22 16:34 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-22 17:11 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-22 20:10 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-05 23:53 When must the io_request_lock be held? Jamie Wellnitz
2002-08-06 17:58 ` Mukul Kotwani
2002-08-07 14:48 ` Doug Ledford
2002-08-07 15:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-07 16:18 ` Doug Ledford
2002-08-07 16:48 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-07 18:06 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-07 23:17 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-08 19:28 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-08-07 16:55 ` Patrick Mansfield
[not found] <200206132126.g5DLQiQ24889@localhost.localdomain>
2002-06-13 21:50 ` Proposed changes to generic blk tag for use in SCSI (1/3) Doug Ledford
2002-06-13 22:09 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-11 2:46 James Bottomley
2002-06-11 5:50 ` Jens Axboe
2002-06-11 14:29 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-11 14:45 ` Jens Axboe
2002-06-11 16:39 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-13 21:01 ` Doug Ledford
2002-06-13 21:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-08 15:18 [RFC] Persistent naming of scsi devices sullivan
2002-04-08 15:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-04-08 15:59 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-04-08 16:34 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-08 18:27 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-04-08 19:17 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-09 0:22 ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-04-09 14:35 ` sullivan
2002-04-09 14:55 ` sullivan
2002-04-08 17:51 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-04-08 18:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-04-08 18:18 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-04-08 18:28 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-08 18:34 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-04-08 19:07 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-08 20:41 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-04-08 18:45 ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-08 20:18 ` Eddie Williams
2002-04-09 0:48 ` Kurt Garloff
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