From: Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>
To: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
Niklas Cassel <Niklas.Cassel@wdc.com>,
Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/18] block: introduce duration-limits priority class
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 12:10:38 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4a8a46cb-fec8-4ca8-a346-62fd0f0efb73@opensource.wdc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq1bkmfe88c.fsf@ca-mkp.ca.oracle.com>
On 1/31/23 11:49, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
>
> Damien,
>
>> Makes sense. Though I think it will be hard to define a set of QoS
>> hints that are useful for a wide range of applications, and even
>> harder to convert the defined hint classes to CDL descriptors. I fear
>> that we may end up with the same issues as IO hints/streams.
>
> Hints mainly failed because non-Linux OSes had very different
> expectations about how this was going to work. So that left device
> vendors in a situation where they had to essentially support 3 different
> approaches all implemented using the same protocol.
>
> The challenge of being a general purpose OS is to come up with concepts
> that are applicable in a variety of situations. Twiddling protocol
> fields is the easy part.
>
> I have a couple of experienced CDL users that I'd like to talk to and
> try to get a better idea of what a suitable set of defaults might look
> like.
>
>> This hint applies to all priority classes and levels, that is, for the
>> CDL case, we can enrich any priority with a hint that specifies the
>> CDL index to use for an IO.
>
> Yeah, I like that approach better.
Of note is that even though the IOPRIO_XXX macros in include/uapi/linux/ioprio.h
assume a 16bits value for the priority class + data, of which only 6 bits are
usable (3 for the class, 3 for the level), all syscall and kernel internal
interface has ioprio defined as an int. So we have in fact 32 bits to play with.
We could keep the lower 16 bits for ioprio as it was, and have the upper 16bits
used for QOS hints. More room that the 10 bits between the prio class and level.
The only place that will need changing is struct bio since bi_ioprio is defined
as an unsigned short. To solve this, as Bart suggested, we could add another
unsigned short in the bio struct hole for the qos hints (bi_iohint or bi_ioqoshint).
But if we can define a sensible set of hints that covers at least CDL with the
10 free bits we have in the current ioprio, that would be even better I think
(less changes needed in the block layer).
--
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-31 3:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-24 19:02 [PATCH v3 00/18] Add Command Duration Limits support Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 01/18] block: introduce duration-limits priority class Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:27 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 20:36 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 21:48 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 21:29 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 22:43 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 22:59 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-25 0:05 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-25 1:19 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-25 18:37 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-25 21:23 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-01-26 0:24 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-26 13:53 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-01-26 17:33 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-27 0:18 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-27 1:40 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-27 17:23 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-28 0:40 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-28 0:47 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-28 0:59 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-28 20:25 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-01-29 3:52 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 13:44 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-30 14:55 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 19:24 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-30 20:40 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-31 2:49 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-01-31 3:10 ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2023-01-30 19:13 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-31 2:58 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-01-31 3:03 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-25 23:11 ` Keith Busch
2023-01-26 0:08 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-26 5:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-25 6:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-27 12:43 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 02/18] block: introduce BLK_STS_DURATION_LIMIT Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:29 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:59 ` Keith Busch
2023-01-24 20:32 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 21:39 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 21:36 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 21:34 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 03/18] scsi: core: allow libata to complete successful commands via EH Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 04/18] scsi: rename and move get_scsi_ml_byte() Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:32 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 05/18] scsi: support retrieving sub-pages of mode pages Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:34 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 06/18] scsi: support service action in scsi_report_opcode() Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:36 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 07/18] scsi: sd: detect support for command duration limits Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:39 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-27 13:00 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-28 0:51 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-28 2:52 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-29 2:05 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 08/18] scsi: sd: set read/write commands CDL index Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:30 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-28 0:03 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 18:13 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 09/18] scsi: sd: handle read/write CDL timeout failures Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:34 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-28 0:06 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-02-03 16:49 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 10/18] ata: libata-scsi: remove unnecessary !cmd checks Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:35 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 11/18] ata: libata: change ata_eh_request_sense() to not set CHECK_CONDITION Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:36 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 12/18] ata: libata: detect support for command duration limits Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 13/18] ata: libata-scsi: handle CDL bits in ata_scsiop_maint_in() Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:37 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 14/18] ata: libata-scsi: add support for CDL pages mode sense Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:38 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 15/18] ata: libata: add ATA feature control sub-page translation Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:40 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 16/18] ata: libata: set read/write commands CDL index Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:41 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 17/18] ata: libata: handle completion of CDL commands using policy 0xD Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:43 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 18/18] Documentation: sysfs-block-device: document command duration limits Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:43 ` Hannes Reinecke
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