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From: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
To: Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>,
	Niklas Cassel <Niklas.Cassel@wdc.com>
Cc: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/18] block: introduce duration-limits priority class
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:47:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b77d5e44-bc1e-7524-7e09-a609ba471dbc@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <049a7e88-89d1-804f-a0b5-9e5d93d505f7@opensource.wdc.com>

On 1/27/23 16:40, Damien Le Moal wrote:
> On 1/28/23 02:23, Bart Van Assche wrote:
>> I hope that I have it made it clear that I think that the proposed user
>> space API will be very painful to use for application developers.
> 
> I completely disagree. Reusing the prio class/level API made it easy to allow
> applications to use the feature. fio support for CDL requires exactly *one line*
> change, to allow for the CDL class number 4. That's it. From there, one can use
> the --cmdprio_class=4 nd --cmdprio=idx options to exercise a drive. The value of
> "idx" here of course depends on how the descriptors are set on the drive. But
> back to the point above. This depends on the application goals and the
> descriptors are set accordingly for that goal. There is no real discovery needed
> by the application. The application expect a certain set of CDL limits for its
> use case, and checking that this set is the one currently defined on the drive
> is easy to do from an application with the sysfs interface we added.
> 
> Many users out there have deployed and using applications taking advantage of
> ATA NCQ priority feature, using class RT for high priority IOs. The new CDL
> class does not require many application changes to be enabled for next gen
> drives that will have CDL.
  As I mentioned before, the new I/O priority class IOPRIO_CLASS_DL 
makes it impossible to use a single I/O priority class across devices 
that support CDL and devices that do not support CDL. I'm surprised that 
you keep denying that IOPRIO_CLASS_DL is a royal pain for users who have 
to support devices that support CDL and devices that do not support CDL.

Bart.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-28  0:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-24 19:02 [PATCH v3 00/18] Add Command Duration Limits support Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 01/18] block: introduce duration-limits priority class Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:27   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 20:36     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 21:48       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 21:29     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 22:43       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 22:59         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-25  0:05           ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-25  1:19             ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-25 18:37               ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-25 21:23                 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-01-26  0:24                   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-26 13:53                     ` Niklas Cassel
2023-01-26 17:33                       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-27  0:18                         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-27  1:40                           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-27 17:23                             ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-28  0:40                               ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-28  0:47                                 ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2023-01-28  0:59                                   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-28 20:25                                     ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-01-29  3:52                                       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 13:44                                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-30 14:55                                           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 19:24                                         ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-30 20:40                                         ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-31  2:49                                         ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-01-31  3:10                                           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 19:13                                       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-31  2:58                                         ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-01-31  3:03                                           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-25 23:11               ` Keith Busch
2023-01-26  0:08                 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-26  5:26                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-25  6:33         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-27 12:43   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 02/18] block: introduce BLK_STS_DURATION_LIMIT Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:29   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:59     ` Keith Busch
2023-01-24 20:32       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 21:39         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 21:36       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 21:34     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 03/18] scsi: core: allow libata to complete successful commands via EH Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 04/18] scsi: rename and move get_scsi_ml_byte() Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:32   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 05/18] scsi: support retrieving sub-pages of mode pages Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:34   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 06/18] scsi: support service action in scsi_report_opcode() Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:36   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 07/18] scsi: sd: detect support for command duration limits Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:39   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-27 13:00   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-28  0:51     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-28  2:52       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-29  2:05         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 08/18] scsi: sd: set read/write commands CDL index Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:30   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-28  0:03     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 18:13       ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 09/18] scsi: sd: handle read/write CDL timeout failures Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:34   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-28  0:06     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-02-03 16:49     ` Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 10/18] ata: libata-scsi: remove unnecessary !cmd checks Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:35   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 11/18] ata: libata: change ata_eh_request_sense() to not set CHECK_CONDITION Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:36   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 12/18] ata: libata: detect support for command duration limits Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 13/18] ata: libata-scsi: handle CDL bits in ata_scsiop_maint_in() Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:37   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 14/18] ata: libata-scsi: add support for CDL pages mode sense Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:38   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 15/18] ata: libata: add ATA feature control sub-page translation Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:40   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 16/18] ata: libata: set read/write commands CDL index Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:41   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 17/18] ata: libata: handle completion of CDL commands using policy 0xD Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:43   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 18/18] Documentation: sysfs-block-device: document command duration limits Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:43   ` Hannes Reinecke

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