From: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
To: Niklas Cassel <Niklas.Cassel@wdc.com>,
Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>
Cc: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/18] block: introduce duration-limits priority class
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 09:33:52 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7f0a2464-673a-f64a-4ebb-e599c3123a24@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y9KF5z/v0Qp5E4sI@x1-carbon>
On 1/26/23 05:53, Niklas Cassel wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 09:24:12AM +0900, Damien Le Moal wrote:
>> But again, the difficulty with this overloading is that we *cannot* implement a
>> solid level-based scheduling in IO schedulers because ordering the CDLs in a
>> meaningful way is impossible. So BFQ handling of the RT class would likely not
>> result in the most ideal scheduling (that would depend heavily on how the CDL
>> descriptors are defined on the drive). Hence my reluctance to overload the RT
>> class for CDL.
>
> Well, if CDL were to reuse IOPRIO_CLASS_RT, then the user would either have to
> disable the IO scheduler, so that lower classdata levels wouldn't be prioritized
> over higher classdata levels, or simply use an IO scheduler that does not care
> about the classdata level, e.g. mq-deadline.
How about making the information about whether or not CDL has been
enabled available to the scheduler such that the scheduler can include
that information in its decisions?
> However, for CDL, things are not as simple as setting a single bit in the
> command, because of all the different descriptors, so we must let the classdata
> represent the device side priority level, and not the host side priority level
> (as we cannot have both, and I agree with you, it is very hard define an order
> between the descriptors.. e.g. should a 20 ms policy 0xf descriptor be ranked
> higher or lower than a 20 ms policy 0xd descriptor?).
How about only supporting a subset of the standard such that it becomes
easy to map CDLs to host side priority levels?
If users really need the ability to use all standardized CDL features
and if there is no easy way to map CDL levels to an I/O priority, is the
I/O priority mechanism really the best basis for a user space interface
for CDLs?
Thanks,
Bart.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-26 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-24 19:02 [PATCH v3 00/18] Add Command Duration Limits support Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 01/18] block: introduce duration-limits priority class Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:27 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 20:36 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 21:48 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 21:29 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 22:43 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 22:59 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-25 0:05 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-25 1:19 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-25 18:37 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-25 21:23 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-01-26 0:24 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-26 13:53 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-01-26 17:33 ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
2023-01-27 0:18 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-27 1:40 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-27 17:23 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-28 0:40 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-28 0:47 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-28 0:59 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-28 20:25 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-01-29 3:52 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 13:44 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-30 14:55 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 19:24 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-30 20:40 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-31 2:49 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-01-31 3:10 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 19:13 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-31 2:58 ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-01-31 3:03 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-25 23:11 ` Keith Busch
2023-01-26 0:08 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-26 5:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-25 6:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-27 12:43 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 02/18] block: introduce BLK_STS_DURATION_LIMIT Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:29 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:59 ` Keith Busch
2023-01-24 20:32 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 21:39 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 21:36 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 21:34 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 03/18] scsi: core: allow libata to complete successful commands via EH Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 04/18] scsi: rename and move get_scsi_ml_byte() Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:32 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 05/18] scsi: support retrieving sub-pages of mode pages Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:34 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 06/18] scsi: support service action in scsi_report_opcode() Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:36 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 07/18] scsi: sd: detect support for command duration limits Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:39 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-27 13:00 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-28 0:51 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-28 2:52 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-29 2:05 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 08/18] scsi: sd: set read/write commands CDL index Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:30 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-28 0:03 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 18:13 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 09/18] scsi: sd: handle read/write CDL timeout failures Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:34 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-28 0:06 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-02-03 16:49 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 10/18] ata: libata-scsi: remove unnecessary !cmd checks Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:35 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 11/18] ata: libata: change ata_eh_request_sense() to not set CHECK_CONDITION Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:36 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 12/18] ata: libata: detect support for command duration limits Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 13/18] ata: libata-scsi: handle CDL bits in ata_scsiop_maint_in() Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:37 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 14/18] ata: libata-scsi: add support for CDL pages mode sense Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:38 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 15/18] ata: libata: add ATA feature control sub-page translation Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:40 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 16/18] ata: libata: set read/write commands CDL index Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:41 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 17/18] ata: libata: handle completion of CDL commands using policy 0xD Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:43 ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 18/18] Documentation: sysfs-block-device: document command duration limits Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:43 ` Hannes Reinecke
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