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From: Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@opensource.wdc.com>
To: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: Niklas Cassel <Niklas.Cassel@wdc.com>,
	Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-ide@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/18] block: introduce duration-limits priority class
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 12:03:27 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4d0e360a-32ce-7204-1d86-7ec636bb3feb@opensource.wdc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq15ycne7rg.fsf@ca-mkp.ca.oracle.com>

On 1/31/23 11:58, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
> 
> Hi Bart!
> 
>> My understanding is that ionice uses the ioprio_set() system call and
>> hence only affects foreground I/O but not page cache writeback. This
>> is why I introduced the ioprio rq-qos policy (block/blk-ioprio.c). How
>> about not adding CDL support in ioprio_set() and only supporting
>> configuration of CDL via the v2 cgroup mechanism?
> 
> I suspect applications that care about CDL would probably not go through
> the page cache. But I don't have a problem supporting cgroups at all.
> 
> Longer term, for the applications that I'm aware of that care about
> this, we'd probably want to be able to specify things on a per-I/O basis
> via io_uring, though.

Absolutely agree here. Similarly to the legacy ioprio, we need to be able to
specify per-io (iouring or libaio) and per context (ioprio_set() or cgroups). I
see the per-io and cgroups APIs as complementary.

Many of the use cases we are seeing for CDL are transitions from ATA NCQ prio,
which relies on the RT class for per IO aio_iorpio field with libaio/iouring. I
would like to have continuity with this to facilitate application development.
Having only cgroups as the API would disallow per-io async io application engines.

-- 
Damien Le Moal
Western Digital Research


  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-31  3:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-24 19:02 [PATCH v3 00/18] Add Command Duration Limits support Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 01/18] block: introduce duration-limits priority class Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:27   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 20:36     ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 21:48       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 21:29     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 22:43       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 22:59         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-25  0:05           ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-25  1:19             ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-25 18:37               ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-25 21:23                 ` Niklas Cassel
2023-01-26  0:24                   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-26 13:53                     ` Niklas Cassel
2023-01-26 17:33                       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-27  0:18                         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-27  1:40                           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-27 17:23                             ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-28  0:40                               ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-28  0:47                                 ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-28  0:59                                   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-28 20:25                                     ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-01-29  3:52                                       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 13:44                                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-30 14:55                                           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 19:24                                         ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-30 20:40                                         ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-31  2:49                                         ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-01-31  3:10                                           ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 19:13                                       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-31  2:58                                         ` Martin K. Petersen
2023-01-31  3:03                                           ` Damien Le Moal [this message]
2023-01-25 23:11               ` Keith Busch
2023-01-26  0:08                 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-26  5:26                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-25  6:33         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-01-27 12:43   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 02/18] block: introduce BLK_STS_DURATION_LIMIT Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:29   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:59     ` Keith Busch
2023-01-24 20:32       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 21:39         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 21:36       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 21:34     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 03/18] scsi: core: allow libata to complete successful commands via EH Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 04/18] scsi: rename and move get_scsi_ml_byte() Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:32   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 05/18] scsi: support retrieving sub-pages of mode pages Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:34   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 06/18] scsi: support service action in scsi_report_opcode() Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:36   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 07/18] scsi: sd: detect support for command duration limits Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:39   ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-27 13:00   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-28  0:51     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-28  2:52       ` Bart Van Assche
2023-01-29  2:05         ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 08/18] scsi: sd: set read/write commands CDL index Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:30   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-28  0:03     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-01-30 18:13       ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 09/18] scsi: sd: handle read/write CDL timeout failures Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:34   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-28  0:06     ` Damien Le Moal
2023-02-03 16:49     ` Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 10/18] ata: libata-scsi: remove unnecessary !cmd checks Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:35   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 11/18] ata: libata: change ata_eh_request_sense() to not set CHECK_CONDITION Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:36   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 12/18] ata: libata: detect support for command duration limits Niklas Cassel
2023-01-24 19:02 ` [PATCH v3 13/18] ata: libata-scsi: handle CDL bits in ata_scsiop_maint_in() Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:37   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 14/18] ata: libata-scsi: add support for CDL pages mode sense Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:38   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 15/18] ata: libata: add ATA feature control sub-page translation Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:40   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 16/18] ata: libata: set read/write commands CDL index Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:41   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 17/18] ata: libata: handle completion of CDL commands using policy 0xD Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:43   ` Hannes Reinecke
2023-01-24 19:03 ` [PATCH v3 18/18] Documentation: sysfs-block-device: document command duration limits Niklas Cassel
2023-01-27 15:43   ` Hannes Reinecke

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