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From: Charles Keepax <ckeepax@opensource.cirrus.com>
To: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.dev>
Cc: broonie@kernel.org, rafael@kernel.org,
	yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com, peter.ujfalusi@linux.intel.com,
	shumingf@realtek.com, lgirdwood@gmail.com,
	linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, patches@opensource.cirrus.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/15] ASoC: SDCA: Add UMP buffer helper functions
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2025 14:15:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aL7W3iS1YxGfk/AP@opensource.cirrus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e85fa12d-727c-402b-a7c1-493d2224f228@linux.dev>

On Mon, Sep 08, 2025 at 02:02:09PM +0200, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
> On 9/5/25 16:31, Charles Keepax wrote:
> > Add helper functions for handling Universal Message Passing (UMP)
> > buffers on SDCA devices. These are generic mechanisms to pass blocks of
> > binary data between the host and the device, in both directions. They
> > are used for things like passing HID descriptors and the File Download
> > process.
> 
> Humm, these helpers are very host-centric and don't seem to cover the basic
> UMP message passing, e.g. for host to device:
> 
> 1. host puts information in a buffer.

by calling sdca_ump_write_message

> 2. host sets ownership to device and waits for ownership to be returned.

by calling sdca_ump_set_owner_device

> 3. device does a bunch of things and returns the ownership to the host.
> 4. host detects ownership change or times out with a failed transfer error message.

by receiving an IRQ on the owner control.

> What am I missing?

You might need to elaborate a little more on what you think is
missing. The four functions implement the four operations that
power a UMP buffer, checking you have ownership, passing
ownership back to the device, reading data, and writing data.

One could combine more of the functionality into a single helper,
but then you start to hit problems where you need to do extra
bits.

For example HID, very simple just: check you own the buffer,
read the message, and pass the buffer back.

FDL, has extra steps: check you own the buffer, check the FDL
status, then write the buffer, then write the FDL response,
and only then pass the buffer back.

Thanks,
Charles

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-08 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-05 14:31 [PATCH 00/15] Add SDCA UMP/FDL support Charles Keepax
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 01/15] regmap: sdw-mbq: Don't assume the regmap device is the SoundWire slave Charles Keepax
2025-09-08 11:35   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-08 12:38     ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 02/15] ASoC: SDCA: Add manual PM runtime gets to IRQ handlers Charles Keepax
2025-09-08 11:42   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-08 13:31     ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-08 14:15       ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-09 12:56       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 03/15] ASoC: SDCA: Pass SoundWire slave to HID Charles Keepax
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 04/15] ASoC: SDCA: Pass device register map from IRQ alloc to handlers Charles Keepax
2025-09-08 11:49   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-08 12:56     ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-09 13:05       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-09 16:43         ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 05/15] ASoC: SDCA: Update externally_requested flag to cover all requests Charles Keepax
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 06/15] ASoC: SDCA: Factor out a helper to find SDCA IRQ data Charles Keepax
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 07/15] ASoC: SDCA: Rely less on the ASoC component in IRQ handling Charles Keepax
2025-09-08 10:27   ` Liao, Bard
2025-09-08 12:56     ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-08 14:43       ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-09  1:42         ` Liao, Bard
2025-09-09  8:56           ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-10  1:33             ` Liao, Bard
2025-09-08 11:55   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-08 12:58     ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 08/15] ASoC: SDCA: Force some SDCA Controls to be volatile Charles Keepax
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 09/15] ASoC: SDCA: Add UMP buffer helper functions Charles Keepax
2025-09-08 12:02   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-08 13:15     ` Charles Keepax [this message]
2025-09-09 13:14       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-09 16:52         ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-10 12:09           ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-10 13:37             ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-10 14:29               ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-10 15:39                 ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-11 12:33                   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-11 13:07                     ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-12 10:15                       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-12 10:33                         ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-12 11:30                           ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 10/15] ASoC: SDCA: Add SDCA FDL data parsing Charles Keepax
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 11/15] ASoC: SDCA: Add FDL library for XU entities Charles Keepax
2025-09-08 12:14   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-08 13:16     ` Charles Keepax
2025-09-09 13:14       ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 12/15] ASoC: SDCA: Add XU-specific IRQ processing Charles Keepax
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 13/15] ASoC: SDCA: Add completion for FDL start and stop Charles Keepax
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 14/15] ASoC: SDCA: Add early IRQ handling Charles Keepax
2025-09-05 14:31 ` [PATCH 15/15] ASoC: SDCA: Add HID button IRQ Charles Keepax

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