From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] drivers/core: Replace lockdep_set_novalidate_class() with unique class keys
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:55:06 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+siOolJeC10k5D3@Boquns-Mac-mini.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230214052733.3354-1-hdanton@sina.com>
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 01:27:33PM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 18:09:16 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:03:14PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 05:51:11PM -0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > > > Basically if you have two lock instances A and B with the same class,
> > > > and you know that locking ordering is always A -> B, then you can do
> > > >
> > > > mutex_lock(A);
> > > > mutex_lock_nest_lock(B, A); // lock B.
> > > >
> > > > to tell the lockdep this is not deadlock, plus lockdep will treat the
> > > > acquisition of A and the precondition of acquisition B, so the following
> > > > is not a deadlock as well:
> > > >
> > > > T1:
> > > > mutex_lock(A);
> > > > mutex_lock(C);
> > > > mutex_lock_nest_lock(B, A);
> > > >
> > > > T2:
> > > > mutex_lock(A);
> > > > mutex_lock_nest_lock(B, A);
> > > > mutex_lock(C);
> > >
> > > Why isn't this treated as a deadlock? It sure looks like a deadlock to
> > > me. Is this an example where lockdep just doesn't get the right answer?
>
> Syzbot reported deadlock[1] with A ignored.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230130073136.59-1-hdanton@sina.com/
>
Right, I think that's a false positive, however it's not related to
mutex_lock_nest_lock(). Anyway mutex_lock_nest_lock() cannot help that
case since these are three different lock class.
Actually, reading the code again, I think I made a mistake, for
mutex_lock_nest_lock(), the following *is* a deadlock to lockdep:
T1:
mutex_lock(A);
mutex_lock(C);
mutex_lock_nest_lock(B, A);
T2:
mutex_lock(A);
mutex_lock_nest_lock(B, A);
mutex_lock(C);
and this *is not* a deadlock to lockdep:
T1:
mutex_lock(A);
mutex_lock_nest_lock(C, A);
mutex_lock_nest_lock(B, A);
T2:
mutex_lock(A);
mutex_lock_nest_lock(B, A);
mutex_lock_nest_lock(C, A);
The current semantics of _nest_lock() is tricky, it only provides the
"nest" effect if it is the next lock acquired after the "parent" lock.
Maybe we can change and make it clear a little bit to make it more
useful.
Ah, actually someone found it 7 years ago:
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20150810095247.GA4606@fixme-laptop.cn.ibm.com/
;-)
Regards,
Boqun
> > Because A serializes B and C, so that particular piece of code doesn't
> > cause deadlock. Note that you can still use you normal mutex_lock() for
> > B, so if there is more code:
> >
> > T3:
> > mutex_lock(C);
> > mutex_lock(B);
> >
> > lockdep will report deadlock.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Boqun
> >
> > > Alan Stern
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-14 5:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-04 13:32 Converting dev->mutex into dev->spinlock ? Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 13:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 14:21 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 14:34 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 15:16 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 15:34 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 16:12 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 16:27 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 17:09 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 20:01 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 20:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-05 1:23 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-06 14:13 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-06 15:45 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-07 13:07 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-07 17:46 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-07 22:17 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-08 0:34 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <20230208080739.1649-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-08 10:30 ` [PATCH] drivers/core: Replace lockdep_set_novalidate_class() with unique class keys Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-08 15:07 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-09 0:22 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-09 0:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-09 1:50 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-09 2:26 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-11 2:04 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-11 21:41 ` [PATCH RFC] " Alan Stern
2023-02-11 21:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-11 23:06 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-11 23:08 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-11 23:24 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12 2:40 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12 2:46 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12 3:03 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12 3:10 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12 15:23 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12 19:14 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12 20:19 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12 20:51 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13 1:23 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 2:21 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13 15:25 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 9:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 9:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 15:28 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 16:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 9:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 15:25 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 16:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 1:51 ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-14 1:53 ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-14 2:03 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-14 2:09 ` Boqun Feng
[not found] ` <20230214052733.3354-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-14 5:55 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2023-02-14 10:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 16:22 ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-15 10:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-20 17:32 ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-13 18:46 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-14 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 20:05 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-15 10:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 20:16 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20230212013220.2678-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-12 1:52 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13 9:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 16:18 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 17:51 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-13 18:05 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-05 1:31 ` Converting dev->mutex into dev->spinlock ? Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-05 16:46 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <20230206025629.1786-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-06 4:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-06 5:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <20230206064305.1838-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-06 6:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 15:12 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 15:30 ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 15:40 ` Alan Stern
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