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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] drivers/core: Replace lockdep_set_novalidate_class() with unique class keys
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:55:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+siOolJeC10k5D3@Boquns-Mac-mini.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230214052733.3354-1-hdanton@sina.com>

On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 01:27:33PM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 18:09:16 -0800 Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 09:03:14PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 05:51:11PM -0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > > > Basically if you have two lock instances A and B with the same class,
> > > > and you know that locking ordering is always A -> B, then you can do
> > > > 
> > > > 	mutex_lock(A);
> > > > 	mutex_lock_nest_lock(B, A); // lock B.
> > > > 
> > > > to tell the lockdep this is not deadlock, plus lockdep will treat the
> > > > acquisition of A and the precondition of acquisition B, so the following
> > > > is not a deadlock as well:
> > > > 
> > > > T1:
> > > > 	mutex_lock(A);
> > > > 	mutex_lock(C);
> > > > 	mutex_lock_nest_lock(B, A);
> > > > 
> > > > T2:
> > > > 	mutex_lock(A);
> > > > 	mutex_lock_nest_lock(B, A);
> > > > 	mutex_lock(C);
> > > 
> > > Why isn't this treated as a deadlock?  It sure looks like a deadlock to 
> > > me.  Is this an example where lockdep just doesn't get the right answer?
> 
> Syzbot reported deadlock[1] with A ignored.
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230130073136.59-1-hdanton@sina.com/
> 

Right, I think that's a false positive, however it's not related to
mutex_lock_nest_lock(). Anyway mutex_lock_nest_lock() cannot help that
case since these are three different lock class.

Actually, reading the code again, I think I made a mistake, for
mutex_lock_nest_lock(), the following *is* a deadlock to lockdep:

T1:
	mutex_lock(A);
	mutex_lock(C);
	mutex_lock_nest_lock(B, A);

T2:
	mutex_lock(A);
	mutex_lock_nest_lock(B, A);
	mutex_lock(C);

and this *is not* a deadlock to lockdep:

T1:
	mutex_lock(A);
	mutex_lock_nest_lock(C, A);
	mutex_lock_nest_lock(B, A);

T2:
	mutex_lock(A);
	mutex_lock_nest_lock(B, A);
	mutex_lock_nest_lock(C, A);

The current semantics of _nest_lock() is tricky, it only provides the
"nest" effect if it is the next lock acquired after the "parent" lock.
Maybe we can change and make it clear a little bit to make it more
useful.

Ah, actually someone found it 7 years ago:

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20150810095247.GA4606@fixme-laptop.cn.ibm.com/

;-)

Regards,
Boqun

> > Because A serializes B and C, so that particular piece of code doesn't
> > cause deadlock. Note that you can still use you normal mutex_lock() for
> > B, so if there is more code:
> > 
> > T3:
> > 	mutex_lock(C);
> > 	mutex_lock(B);
> > 
> > lockdep will report deadlock.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Boqun
> > 
> > > Alan Stern

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-14  5:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-04 13:32 Converting dev->mutex into dev->spinlock ? Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 13:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 14:21   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 14:34     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 15:16       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 15:34     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 16:12       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 16:27         ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 17:09           ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 20:01             ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 20:14               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-05  1:23                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-06 14:13                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-06 15:45                     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-07 13:07                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-07 17:46                         ` Alan Stern
2023-02-07 22:17                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-08  0:34                             ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                             ` <20230208080739.1649-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-08 10:30                               ` [PATCH] drivers/core: Replace lockdep_set_novalidate_class() with unique class keys Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-08 15:07                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-09  0:22                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-09  0:46                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-09  1:50                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-09  2:26                                     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-11  2:04                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-11 21:41                                         ` [PATCH RFC] " Alan Stern
2023-02-11 21:51                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-11 23:06                                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-11 23:08                                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-11 23:24                                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12  2:40                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12  2:46                                                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12  3:03                                                     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12  3:10                                                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12 15:23                                                         ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12 19:14                                                           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12 20:19                                                             ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12 20:51                                                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13  1:23                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13  2:21                                                                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13 15:25                                                                     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13  9:29                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13  9:27                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 15:28                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 16:36                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13  9:24                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 15:25                                                             ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 16:29                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14  1:51                                                                 ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-14  1:53                                                                   ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-14  2:03                                                                   ` Alan Stern
2023-02-14  2:09                                                                     ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20230214052733.3354-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-14  5:55                                                                       ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2023-02-14 10:48                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 16:22                                                                     ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-15 10:45                                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-20 17:32                                                                         ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-13 18:46                                                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-14 11:05                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 20:05                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-15 10:33                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 20:16                                                                 ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]                                               ` <20230212013220.2678-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-12  1:52                                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13  9:49                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 16:18                                             ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 17:51                                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-13 18:05                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-05  1:31               ` Converting dev->mutex into dev->spinlock ? Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-05 16:46                 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                 ` <20230206025629.1786-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-06  4:44                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-06  5:17                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                   ` <20230206064305.1838-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-06  6:48                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 15:12 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 15:30   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 15:40     ` Alan Stern

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