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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Coly Li <colyli@suse.de>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] drivers/core: Replace lockdep_set_novalidate_class() with unique class keys
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 11:33:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+y08ObKvxqRrAsA@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y+vplu7H8k4OjlL5@rowland.harvard.edu>

On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 03:05:42PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 12:05:27PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Every class gets a fixed 8 subclasses (0-7) given by the unique byte
> > addresses inside the actual key object.
> > 
> > Subclasses will let you create nesting order of the same class that are
> > acceptable. Typically lock/1 nests inside lock/0, but that's not
> > hard-coded, simply convention.
> 
> Can you explain in more detail how this works in the lockdep checking 
> algorithm?  (For simplicity, let's leave out issues of interrupt status 
> and other environmental things.)
> 
> I've been assuming that lockdep builds up a set of links between the 
> classes -- namely, a link is created from A to B whenever a thread holds 
> a lock of class A while acquiring a lock of class B.  The checking part 
> would then amount to just making sure that these links don't form any 
> cycles.
> 
> So then how do subclasses fit into the picture?  Is it just that now the 
> links are between subclasses rather than classes, so it's not 
> automatically wrong to hold a lock while acquiring another lock of the 
> same class as long as the two acquisitions are in different subclasses?  
> But you can still provoke a violation if there's a cycle among the 
> subclasses?

For all intents and purposes the subclasses are fully distinct classes
from the validation pov.

	mutex_lock(L);
	mutex_lock_nested(L, 0);

are equivalent (ignoring lockdep_set_subclass()), and

	mutex_lock_nested(L, 1);

is a distinct class, validation wise. So if you write:

	mutex_lock(L1);
	mutex_lock_nested(L2, 1);

you explicitly create a lock order between the distinct validation
classes: L/0,  L/1

> > Then there's that nesting lock, that requires two classes and at least 3
> > locks to make sense:
> > 
> >   P, C1, C2
> > 
> > Where we posit that any multi-lock of Cn is fully serialized by P
> 
> Assuming the speculations above are correct, how does the algorithm take 
> lockdep nesting into account?  Does it simply avoid creating a link from 
> subclass C to itself if both C1 and C2 were acquired while holding a 
> lock of the parent subclass and both acquisitions were annotated with 
> mutex_lock_next_lock()?

Basically this; it will explicitly ignore the nesting.

Given:

	mutex_lock(P);
	mutex_lock_nest_lock(C1, P);
	mutex_lock_nest_lock(C2, P);

mutex_lock_nest_lock() basically does:

 - validate that the instance of P is actually held.
   (as such, mutex_lock_nest_lock(C1, P1); mutex_lock_nest_lock(C2, P2);
   will cause objections).

 - either:

   * establish P->C in the held-lock stack
     and update the graph if so required

   * find the existing C in the held-lock stack
     and instead of complaining about class recursion, increment a
     refcount, and leave the held-stack and thus the graph unmodified.

subsequent mutex_unlock() will decrement the refcount and only when 0
'pop' the actual entry from the held stack.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-15 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-04 13:32 Converting dev->mutex into dev->spinlock ? Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 13:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 14:21   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 14:34     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 15:16       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 15:34     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 16:12       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 16:27         ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 17:09           ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 20:01             ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 20:14               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-05  1:23                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-06 14:13                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-06 15:45                     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-07 13:07                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-07 17:46                         ` Alan Stern
2023-02-07 22:17                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-08  0:34                             ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                             ` <20230208080739.1649-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-08 10:30                               ` [PATCH] drivers/core: Replace lockdep_set_novalidate_class() with unique class keys Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-08 15:07                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-09  0:22                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-09  0:46                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-09  1:50                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-09  2:26                                     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-11  2:04                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-11 21:41                                         ` [PATCH RFC] " Alan Stern
2023-02-11 21:51                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-11 23:06                                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-11 23:08                                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-11 23:24                                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12  2:40                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12  2:46                                                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12  3:03                                                     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12  3:10                                                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12 15:23                                                         ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12 19:14                                                           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12 20:19                                                             ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12 20:51                                                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13  1:23                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13  2:21                                                                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13 15:25                                                                     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13  9:29                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13  9:27                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 15:28                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 16:36                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13  9:24                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 15:25                                                             ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 16:29                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14  1:51                                                                 ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-14  1:53                                                                   ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-14  2:03                                                                   ` Alan Stern
2023-02-14  2:09                                                                     ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20230214052733.3354-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-14  5:55                                                                       ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-14 10:48                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 16:22                                                                     ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-15 10:45                                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-20 17:32                                                                         ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-13 18:46                                                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-14 11:05                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 20:05                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-15 10:33                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-02-14 20:16                                                                 ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]                                               ` <20230212013220.2678-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-12  1:52                                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13  9:49                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 16:18                                             ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 17:51                                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-13 18:05                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-05  1:31               ` Converting dev->mutex into dev->spinlock ? Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-05 16:46                 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                 ` <20230206025629.1786-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-06  4:44                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-06  5:17                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                   ` <20230206064305.1838-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-06  6:48                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 15:12 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 15:30   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 15:40     ` Alan Stern

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