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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Coly Li <colyli@suse.de>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] drivers/core: Replace lockdep_set_novalidate_class() with unique class keys
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 12:05:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+tq9/pUQL5bv/zC@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y+qFc7Q2NfXERwYT@moria.home.lan>

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 01:46:11PM -0500, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 10:24:13AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 10:23:44AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > Provided it acquires the parent device's lock first, this is 
> > > utterly safe no matter what order the children are locked in.  Try 
> > > telling that to lockdep! 
> > 
> > mutex_lock_next_lock(child->lock, parent->lock) is there to express this
> > exact pattern, it allows taking multiple child->lock class locks (in any
> > order) provided parent->lock is held.
> 
> Perhaps I'm stupid, but I've never understood how subclasses - or this -
> are supposed to work.
> 
> Locks don't get a fixed subclass, so what's to prevent some code from
> going

So there's two annotations here, the nest_lock thing and subclasses,
they're distinct things.

Every class gets a fixed 8 subclasses (0-7) given by the unique byte
addresses inside the actual key object.

Subclasses will let you create nesting order of the same class that are
acceptable. Typically lock/1 nests inside lock/0, but that's not
hard-coded, simply convention.

The way it is used is given an external lock order, say the CPU number
for the runqueue locks, you do things like:

void double_rq_lock(struct rq *rq1, struct rq *r2)
{
	lockdep_assert_irqs_disabled();

	if (rq_order_less(r2, rq1))
		swap(rq1, rq2);

	raw_spin_rq_lock(rq1);
	if (__rq_lockp(rq1) != __rq_lock(rq2))
		raw_spin_rq_lock_nested(rq2, SINGLE_DEPTH_NESTING);

	...
}

(which is more complicated than it needs to be due to the whole
core-scheduling mess, but should still be readable I suppose).

Basically we make sure rq1 and rq2 are in the correct order and acquire
them with subclass 0 (the default) and subcless 1 (SINGLE_DEPTH_NESTING)
resp. dictating the subclass order.

This is lock order per decree, if you get the order function wrong
lockdep will not see the inversion but you *will* deadlock.


Then there's that nesting lock, that requires two classes and at least 3
locks to make sense:

  P, C1, C2

Where we posit that any multi-lock of Cn is fully serialized by P and it
is used like:

	mutex_lock(P);
	mutex_lock_nest_lock(C1, P);
	mutex_lock_nest_lock(C2, P);

Where any order of Cn is acceptable, because fully ordered by P.

If you were to combine this with subclass on Cn to allow multi-lock
instances not order by P, you get to keep the pieces :-)




  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-14 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-04 13:32 Converting dev->mutex into dev->spinlock ? Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 13:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 14:21   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 14:34     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 15:16       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 15:34     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 16:12       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 16:27         ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 17:09           ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 20:01             ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 20:14               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-05  1:23                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-06 14:13                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-06 15:45                     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-07 13:07                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-07 17:46                         ` Alan Stern
2023-02-07 22:17                           ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-08  0:34                             ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                             ` <20230208080739.1649-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-08 10:30                               ` [PATCH] drivers/core: Replace lockdep_set_novalidate_class() with unique class keys Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-08 15:07                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-09  0:22                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-09  0:46                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-09  1:50                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-09  2:26                                     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-11  2:04                                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-11 21:41                                         ` [PATCH RFC] " Alan Stern
2023-02-11 21:51                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-11 23:06                                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-11 23:08                                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-11 23:24                                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12  2:40                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12  2:46                                                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12  3:03                                                     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12  3:10                                                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12 15:23                                                         ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12 19:14                                                           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-12 20:19                                                             ` Alan Stern
2023-02-12 20:51                                                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13  1:23                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13  2:21                                                                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13 15:25                                                                     ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13  9:29                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13  9:27                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 15:28                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 16:36                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13  9:24                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 15:25                                                             ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 16:29                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14  1:51                                                                 ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-14  1:53                                                                   ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-14  2:03                                                                   ` Alan Stern
2023-02-14  2:09                                                                     ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20230214052733.3354-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-14  5:55                                                                       ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-14 10:48                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 16:22                                                                     ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-15 10:45                                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-20 17:32                                                                         ` Boqun Feng
2023-02-13 18:46                                                             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-14 11:05                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2023-02-14 20:05                                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-15 10:33                                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 20:16                                                                 ` Kent Overstreet
     [not found]                                               ` <20230212013220.2678-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-12  1:52                                                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-02-13  9:49                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-13 16:18                                             ` Alan Stern
2023-02-13 17:51                                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-13 18:05                                                 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-05  1:31               ` Converting dev->mutex into dev->spinlock ? Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-05 16:46                 ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                 ` <20230206025629.1786-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-06  4:44                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-02-06  5:17                   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
     [not found]                   ` <20230206064305.1838-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2023-02-06  6:48                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-04 15:12 ` Alan Stern
2023-02-04 15:30   ` Tetsuo Handa
2023-02-04 15:40     ` Alan Stern

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