* [PATCH 0/2] Fix problems fetching TBT3 DROM from AMD USB4 routers
@ 2023-02-14 15:46 Mario Limonciello
2023-02-14 15:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] thunderbolt: Read DROM directly from NVM before trying bit banging Mario Limonciello
2023-02-14 15:46 ` [PATCH 2/2] thunderbolt: use `tb_eeprom_get_drom_offset` to discover DROM offset Mario Limonciello
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mario Limonciello @ 2023-02-14 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mika.westerberg, linux-usb
Cc: YehezkelShB, michael.jamet, andreas.noever, Sanju.Mehta,
Mario Limonciello, linux-kernel
TBT3 devices when connected to an AMD USB4 router occasionally fail to
properly respond to requests for the DROM via bit banging.
Depending upon which part of the request failed will impact the severity.
A number of workarounds have been put in place to let the driver handle
the failed requests:
e87491a9fd4e3 ("thunderbolt: Retry DROM reads for more failure scenarios")
a283de3ec646f ("thunderbolt: Do not resume routers if UID is not set")
6915812bbd109 ("thunderbolt: Do not make DROM read success compulsory")
Still even with these changes the failures do make it through. In comparing
other CM implementations, they all access the DROM directly from the NVM.
To avoid triggering this issue, try to get the DROM directly from the NVM
in Linux as well before resorting to bitbanging.
Mario Limonciello (2):
thunderbolt: Read DROM directly from NVM before trying bit banging
thunderbolt: use `tb_eeprom_get_drom_offset` to discover DROM offset
drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c | 9 ++++++---
1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
--
2.25.1
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread* [PATCH 1/2] thunderbolt: Read DROM directly from NVM before trying bit banging 2023-02-14 15:46 [PATCH 0/2] Fix problems fetching TBT3 DROM from AMD USB4 routers Mario Limonciello @ 2023-02-14 15:46 ` Mario Limonciello 2023-02-15 5:58 ` Mika Westerberg 2023-02-14 15:46 ` [PATCH 2/2] thunderbolt: use `tb_eeprom_get_drom_offset` to discover DROM offset Mario Limonciello 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Mario Limonciello @ 2023-02-14 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mika.westerberg, Andreas Noever, Michael Jamet, Yehezkel Bernat Cc: Sanju.Mehta, Mario Limonciello, stable, linux-usb, linux-kernel Some TBT3 devices have a hard time reliably responding to bit banging requests correctly when connected to AMD USB4 hosts running Linux. These problems are not reported in any other CM, and comparing the implementations the Linux CM is the only one that utilizes bit banging to access the DROM. Other CM implementations access the DROM directly from the NVM instead of bit banging. Adjust the flow to try this on TBT3 devices before resorting to bit banging. Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org Signed-off-by: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com> --- drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c | 4 ++++ 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) diff --git a/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c b/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c index c90d22f56d4e1..d9d9567bb938b 100644 --- a/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c +++ b/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c @@ -640,6 +640,10 @@ int tb_drom_read(struct tb_switch *sw) return 0; } + /* TBT3 devices have the DROM as part of NVM */ + if (tb_drom_copy_nvm(sw, &size) == 0) + goto parse; + res = tb_drom_read_n(sw, 14, (u8 *) &size, 2); if (res) return res; -- 2.25.1 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 1/2] thunderbolt: Read DROM directly from NVM before trying bit banging 2023-02-14 15:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] thunderbolt: Read DROM directly from NVM before trying bit banging Mario Limonciello @ 2023-02-15 5:58 ` Mika Westerberg 2023-02-15 6:10 ` Mario Limonciello 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Mika Westerberg @ 2023-02-15 5:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mario Limonciello Cc: Andreas Noever, Michael Jamet, Yehezkel Bernat, Sanju.Mehta, stable, linux-usb, linux-kernel Hi, On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 09:46:45AM -0600, Mario Limonciello wrote: > Some TBT3 devices have a hard time reliably responding to bit banging > requests correctly when connected to AMD USB4 hosts running Linux. > > These problems are not reported in any other CM, and comparing the > implementations the Linux CM is the only one that utilizes bit banging > to access the DROM. Other CM implementations access the DROM directly > from the NVM instead of bit banging. I'm sure Apple CM uses bitbanging because it is what Andreas reverse engineered when he added the initial Linux Thunderbolt support ;-) I guess this is then only Window CM? The problem with reading NVM directly is that we may lose things like UUID, so I'm wondering if there is something else going on. Can you give some details, like what is the device in question? > Adjust the flow to try this on TBT3 devices before resorting to bit > banging. > > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org > Signed-off-by: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com> > --- > drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c | 4 ++++ > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) > > diff --git a/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c b/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c > index c90d22f56d4e1..d9d9567bb938b 100644 > --- a/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c > +++ b/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c > @@ -640,6 +640,10 @@ int tb_drom_read(struct tb_switch *sw) > return 0; > } > > + /* TBT3 devices have the DROM as part of NVM */ > + if (tb_drom_copy_nvm(sw, &size) == 0) > + goto parse; > + > res = tb_drom_read_n(sw, 14, (u8 *) &size, 2); > if (res) > return res; > -- > 2.25.1 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 1/2] thunderbolt: Read DROM directly from NVM before trying bit banging 2023-02-15 5:58 ` Mika Westerberg @ 2023-02-15 6:10 ` Mario Limonciello 2023-02-15 6:24 ` Mika Westerberg 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Mario Limonciello @ 2023-02-15 6:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mika Westerberg Cc: Andreas Noever, Michael Jamet, Yehezkel Bernat, Sanju.Mehta, stable, linux-usb, linux-kernel On 2/14/23 23:58, Mika Westerberg wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 09:46:45AM -0600, Mario Limonciello wrote: >> Some TBT3 devices have a hard time reliably responding to bit banging >> requests correctly when connected to AMD USB4 hosts running Linux. >> >> These problems are not reported in any other CM, and comparing the >> implementations the Linux CM is the only one that utilizes bit banging >> to access the DROM. Other CM implementations access the DROM directly >> from the NVM instead of bit banging. > I'm sure Apple CM uses bitbanging because it is what Andreas reverse > engineered when he added the initial Linux Thunderbolt support ;-) I > guess this is then only Window CM? The problem with reading NVM directly > is that we may lose things like UUID, so I'm wondering if there is > something else going on. When I say other CMs, maybe I should have specified which ones were checked :) The following CM get the DROM without bit-banging: Win11 CM (MS inbox) Win10 CM (AMD) Pre-OS CM (AMD) > Can you give some details, like what is the device in question? It happens with both AR and TR based TBT3 devices connected to AMD USB4 router. It's not any one specific vendor or model, we've seen it across multiple vendors with a failure rate of about 30%. With an analyzer connected in between we can see that the connected TBT3 device does respond to the bit banging correctly, but the response is not making it over to the USB4 router. It happens with multiple retimer vendors, but it hasn't been checked on a retimer-less system yet. >> Adjust the flow to try this on TBT3 devices before resorting to bit >> banging. >> >> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org >> Signed-off-by: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com> >> --- >> drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c | 4 ++++ >> 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) >> >> diff --git a/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c b/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c >> index c90d22f56d4e1..d9d9567bb938b 100644 >> --- a/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c >> +++ b/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c >> @@ -640,6 +640,10 @@ int tb_drom_read(struct tb_switch *sw) >> return 0; >> } >> >> + /* TBT3 devices have the DROM as part of NVM */ >> + if (tb_drom_copy_nvm(sw, &size) == 0) >> + goto parse; >> + >> res = tb_drom_read_n(sw, 14, (u8 *) &size, 2); >> if (res) >> return res; >> -- >> 2.25.1 I guess something else that might be less detrimental the loss of UUID by reading DROM this way would be to only read DROM this way if any CRC failed. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 1/2] thunderbolt: Read DROM directly from NVM before trying bit banging 2023-02-15 6:10 ` Mario Limonciello @ 2023-02-15 6:24 ` Mika Westerberg 2023-02-15 7:26 ` Mika Westerberg 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Mika Westerberg @ 2023-02-15 6:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mario Limonciello Cc: Andreas Noever, Michael Jamet, Yehezkel Bernat, Sanju.Mehta, stable, linux-usb, linux-kernel Hi, On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 12:10:54AM -0600, Mario Limonciello wrote: > > On 2/14/23 23:58, Mika Westerberg wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 09:46:45AM -0600, Mario Limonciello wrote: > > > Some TBT3 devices have a hard time reliably responding to bit banging > > > requests correctly when connected to AMD USB4 hosts running Linux. > > > > > > These problems are not reported in any other CM, and comparing the > > > implementations the Linux CM is the only one that utilizes bit banging > > > to access the DROM. Other CM implementations access the DROM directly > > > from the NVM instead of bit banging. > > I'm sure Apple CM uses bitbanging because it is what Andreas reverse > > engineered when he added the initial Linux Thunderbolt support ;-) I > > guess this is then only Window CM? The problem with reading NVM directly > > is that we may lose things like UUID, so I'm wondering if there is > > something else going on. > > When I say other CMs, maybe I should have specified which ones were checked > :) > > The following CM get the DROM without bit-banging: > > Win11 CM (MS inbox) > > Win10 CM (AMD) > > Pre-OS CM (AMD) Okay that's good to know :) I think you may want to mention this in the commit log too. > > Can you give some details, like what is the device in question? > > It happens with both AR and TR based TBT3 devices connected to AMD USB4 > router. > It's not any one specific vendor or model, we've seen it across multiple > vendors with > a failure rate of about 30%. > > > With an analyzer connected in between we can see that the connected TBT3 > device > does respond to the bit banging correctly, but the response is not making it > over to > the USB4 router. I see. > It happens with multiple retimer vendors, but it hasn't been checked on a > retimer-less > system yet. > > > > Adjust the flow to try this on TBT3 devices before resorting to bit > > > banging. > > > > > > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org > > > Signed-off-by: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com> > > > --- > > > drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c | 4 ++++ > > > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+) > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c b/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c > > > index c90d22f56d4e1..d9d9567bb938b 100644 > > > --- a/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c > > > +++ b/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c > > > @@ -640,6 +640,10 @@ int tb_drom_read(struct tb_switch *sw) > > > return 0; > > > } > > > + /* TBT3 devices have the DROM as part of NVM */ > > > + if (tb_drom_copy_nvm(sw, &size) == 0) > > > + goto parse; > > > + > > > res = tb_drom_read_n(sw, 14, (u8 *) &size, 2); > > > if (res) > > > return res; > > > -- > > > 2.25.1 > > I guess something else that might be less detrimental the loss of UUID > by reading DROM this way would be to only read DROM this way if any CRC > failed. Actually we do read UUID for TBT3 devices from link controller registers (see tb_lc_read_uuid()) instead so I think perhaps we can limit the bitbanging just for older TBT devices with no LC or something like that? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 1/2] thunderbolt: Read DROM directly from NVM before trying bit banging 2023-02-15 6:24 ` Mika Westerberg @ 2023-02-15 7:26 ` Mika Westerberg 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Mika Westerberg @ 2023-02-15 7:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mario Limonciello Cc: Andreas Noever, Michael Jamet, Yehezkel Bernat, Sanju.Mehta, stable, linux-usb, linux-kernel On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 08:24:39AM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote: > > I guess something else that might be less detrimental the loss of UUID > > by reading DROM this way would be to only read DROM this way if any CRC > > failed. > > Actually we do read UUID for TBT3 devices from link controller registers > (see tb_lc_read_uuid()) instead so I think perhaps we can limit the > bitbanging just for older TBT devices with no LC or something like that? Just make sure UUID stays the same so that users don't need to re-authorize their devices. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* [PATCH 2/2] thunderbolt: use `tb_eeprom_get_drom_offset` to discover DROM offset 2023-02-14 15:46 [PATCH 0/2] Fix problems fetching TBT3 DROM from AMD USB4 routers Mario Limonciello 2023-02-14 15:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] thunderbolt: Read DROM directly from NVM before trying bit banging Mario Limonciello @ 2023-02-14 15:46 ` Mario Limonciello 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Mario Limonciello @ 2023-02-14 15:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mika.westerberg, Andreas Noever, Michael Jamet, Yehezkel Bernat Cc: Sanju.Mehta, Mario Limonciello, linux-usb, linux-kernel The static function `tb_eeprom_get_drom_offset` has more safety guards for the DROM offset fetching. Use this instead of just `tb_sw_read` No intended functional changes. Signed-off-by: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com> --- drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c | 5 ++--- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c b/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c index d9d9567bb938b..82124e9db755c 100644 --- a/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c +++ b/drivers/thunderbolt/eeprom.c @@ -471,14 +471,13 @@ static int tb_drom_copy_efi(struct tb_switch *sw, u16 *size) static int tb_drom_copy_nvm(struct tb_switch *sw, u16 *size) { - u32 drom_offset; + u16 drom_offset; int ret; if (!sw->dma_port) return -ENODEV; - ret = tb_sw_read(sw, &drom_offset, TB_CFG_SWITCH, - sw->cap_plug_events + 12, 1); + ret = tb_eeprom_get_drom_offset(sw, &drom_offset); if (ret) return ret; -- 2.25.1 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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