From: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
To: "Pádraig Brady" <P@draigBrady.com>
Cc: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org, Wim Van Sebroeck <wim@iguana.be>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Timo Kokkonen <timo.kokkonen@offcode.fi>,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] watchdog: Add support for keepalives triggered by infrastructure
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:36:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150805073605.GW9999@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55C14E2B.1080904@draigBrady.com>
Hello Pádraig,
On Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 12:43:39AM +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote:
> On 04/08/15 03:13, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > The watchdog infrastructure is currently purely passive, meaning
> > it only passes information from user space to drivers and vice versa.
> >
> > Since watchdog hardware tends to have its own quirks, this can result
> > in quite complex watchdog drivers. A number of scanarios are especially common.
> >
> > - A watchdog is always active and can not be disabled, or can not be disabled
> > once enabled. To support such hardware, watchdog drivers have to implement
> > their own timers and use those timers to trigger watchdog keepalives while
> > the watchdog device is not or not yet opened.
> > - A variant of this is the desire to enable a watchdog as soon as its driver
> > has been instantiated, to protect the system while it is still booting up,
> > but the watchdog daemon is not yet running.
>
> Just mentioning that patting the watchdog in the boot loader
> (by patching grub etc.) can be a more general solution here as it
> avoids hangs if the kernel crashes before it runs the watchdog driver,
> which is especially true if PXE loaded across the net for example.
> Also this tends to be better spaced between boot start and user space loading.
the watchdog I'm currently working with on a powerpc platform has a
unchangable timeout of ~1 s. To make the machine boot I patched the
bootloader and need some automatic pinging in the kernel before
userspace takes over.
Best regards
Uwe
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-05 7:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-04 2:13 [PATCH 0/8] watchdog: Add support for keepalives triggered by infrastructure Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 2:13 ` [PATCH 1/8] watchdog: watchdog_dev: Use single variable name for struct watchdog_device Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 11:26 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04 2:13 ` [PATCH 2/8] watchdog: Introduce hardware maximum timeout in watchdog core Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 12:18 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04 15:31 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 15:52 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04 16:03 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-05 8:22 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-05 9:14 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 2:13 ` [PATCH 3/8] watchdog: Introduce WDOG_RUNNING flag Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 12:25 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04 15:41 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04 15:56 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 2:13 ` [PATCH 4/8] watchdog: Make set_timeout function optional Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 15:38 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04 16:43 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 2:13 ` [PATCH 5/8] watchdog: imx2: Convert to use infrastructure triggered keepalives Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 15:44 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04 2:13 ` [PATCH 6/8] watchdog: retu: " Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 2:13 ` [PATCH 7/8] watchdog: gpio_wdt: " Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 2:13 ` [PATCH 8/8] watchdog: at91sam9: " Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 11:24 ` [PATCH 0/8] watchdog: Add support for keepalives triggered by infrastructure Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04 15:01 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 23:43 ` Pádraig Brady
2015-08-05 0:49 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-05 7:36 ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2015-08-05 7:50 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-05 8:27 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-05 17:13 ` David Teigland
2015-08-05 17:41 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-05 17:51 ` David Teigland
2015-08-05 19:01 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-05 19:51 ` David Teigland
2015-08-05 20:21 ` Guenter Roeck
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