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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
Cc: linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org, Wim Van Sebroeck <wim@iguana.be>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Timo Kokkonen <timo.kokkonen@offcode.fi>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] watchdog: Make set_timeout function optional
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:43:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55C0EBBB.7040002@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150804153823.GS9999@pengutronix.de>

Hi Uwe,

On 08/04/2015 08:38 AM, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 07:13:30PM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> For some watchdogs, the hardware timeout is fixed, and the
>> watchdog driver depends on the watchdog core to handle the
>> actual timeout. In this situation, the watchdog driver might
>> only set the 'timeout' variable but do nothing else.
>> This can as well be handled by the infrastructure, so make
>> the set_timeout callback optional. If WDIOF_SETTIMEOUT is
>> configured but the .set_timeout callback is not available,
>> update the timeout variable in the infrastructure code.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
>> ---
>>   Documentation/watchdog/watchdog-kernel-api.txt | 4 ++++
>>   drivers/watchdog/watchdog_dev.c                | 9 ++++++---
>>   2 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/watchdog/watchdog-kernel-api.txt b/Documentation/watchdog/watchdog-kernel-api.txt
>> index 7fda3c86cf46..2f1a4ad7e565 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/watchdog/watchdog-kernel-api.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/watchdog/watchdog-kernel-api.txt
>> @@ -178,6 +178,10 @@ they are supported. These optional routines/operations are:
>>     because the watchdog does not necessarily has a 1 second resolution).
>>     (Note: the WDIOF_SETTIMEOUT needs to be set in the options field of the
>>     watchdog's info structure).
>> +  If the watchdog driver does not have to perform any action but setting the
>> +  timeout value of the watchdog_device, this callback can be omitted.
>> +  If set_timeout is not provided but WDIOF_SETTIMEOUT is set, the watchdog
>> +  infrastructure updates the timeout value of the watchdog_device internally.
> What is the semantic of struct watchdog_device.timeout? Is it the
> corrently configured hw-timeout? Or what userspace sees? In the former
> case timeout shouldn't be updated. And in the latter case it's wrong
> that the worker thread uses this member to determine the needed rate for
> it's auto pinging.
>

.timeout is what user-space sees, but it is also what may be configured
into the hardware, depending on the value of max_hw_timeout and on the driver.

For example, if timeout = 5s and max_hw_timeout = 6000ms, the driver would (or might)
configure the _current_ hardware timeout to 5s. The worker would not be activated.
If, on the other side, timeout = 10s and max_hw_timeout = 6000ms, the driver would
configure the hardware timeout to 6s, the worker would send a heartbeat every
3 seconds, and user space would be expected to send a heartbeat every 5 seconds
or so (assuming it uses timeout/2 to determine when to send heartbeats).

Thanks,
Guenter


  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-04 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-04  2:13 [PATCH 0/8] watchdog: Add support for keepalives triggered by infrastructure Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04  2:13 ` [PATCH 1/8] watchdog: watchdog_dev: Use single variable name for struct watchdog_device Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 11:26   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04  2:13 ` [PATCH 2/8] watchdog: Introduce hardware maximum timeout in watchdog core Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 12:18   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04 15:31     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 15:52       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04 16:03         ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-05  8:22           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-05  9:14             ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04  2:13 ` [PATCH 3/8] watchdog: Introduce WDOG_RUNNING flag Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 12:25   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04 15:41   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04 15:56     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04  2:13 ` [PATCH 4/8] watchdog: Make set_timeout function optional Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 15:38   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04 16:43     ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2015-08-04  2:13 ` [PATCH 5/8] watchdog: imx2: Convert to use infrastructure triggered keepalives Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 15:44   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04  2:13 ` [PATCH 6/8] watchdog: retu: " Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04  2:13 ` [PATCH 7/8] watchdog: gpio_wdt: " Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04  2:13 ` [PATCH 8/8] watchdog: at91sam9: " Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 11:24 ` [PATCH 0/8] watchdog: Add support for keepalives triggered by infrastructure Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-04 15:01   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-04 23:43 ` Pádraig Brady
2015-08-05  0:49   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-05  7:36   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-05  7:50     ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-05  8:27       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-08-05 17:13 ` David Teigland
2015-08-05 17:41   ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-05 17:51     ` David Teigland
2015-08-05 19:01       ` Guenter Roeck
2015-08-05 19:51         ` David Teigland
2015-08-05 20:21           ` Guenter Roeck

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