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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Tomas Winkler <tomasw@gmail.com>
Cc: Friedrich.Beckmann@infineon.com, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, j@w1.fi
Subject: Re: iwlwifi aggregation info
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:09:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1217592554.8621.23.camel@johannes.berg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1ba2fa240807311216u1a45cf22j219046ab357b0910@mail.gmail.com> (sfid-20080731_211625_713551_7D0F0411)

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Had to think about this for a bit...

> > Right. Which brings us back to the original point, why does the hw need
> > to make the scheduling decision between agg and non-agg?
> 
> There is no scheduling between aag and legacy queue in the sense of
> qdisc .

Right. So why are you saying we should have a separate qdisc for it?

> The aggregation need to be taken from single stream as
> explained before,

I think we simply agree on that. Which brings me back to my original
point: to provide fairness within that stream we shouldn't have separate
qdiscs for agg/non-agg parts of the stream.

> Iwlwifi has HW support for it that that's the whole story we just need
> queueing support from the software buffering stopping and starting
> queue and last but not least there is a classification just an
> extension of the regular AC scheduling.  The fairness between legacy
> and agg queue must be provided by actually 'not scheduling'

I don't understand what you mean by "not scheduling". AIUI from the
specs, there is no scheduling between aggregation/non-aggregation
queues, or "within an AC" as I would say it.

Therefore, I think we should remove the extra software queues and split
up the single-AC stream into the different hardware queues in the
driver, to be reunited in the FIFOs.

> If you don't want to experiment but provide QoS by spec the scheduling
> is best to leave to HW.

I don't contend that only the hw is able to make QoS scheduling
decisions, as they depend on air access etc. after all.

johannes

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-01 12:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-29 11:32 iwlwifi aggregation info Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 11:36 ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 12:25   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-29 12:27     ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 12:35       ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-29 12:53         ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 13:04           ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-29 13:07             ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 13:18               ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-29 13:23                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 13:43                   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-29 13:46                     ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 14:06                       ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-29 14:21                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 15:55                           ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-30  9:53                             ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-30 11:03                               ` Friedrich.Beckmann
2008-07-30 13:19                                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-30 13:45                                   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-30 13:50                                     ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-30 13:59                                       ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-30 15:19                                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-30 16:08                                           ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-31 13:05                                             ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-31 18:14                                               ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-31 18:23                                                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-31 19:16                                                   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-01 12:09                                                     ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2008-08-01 12:40                                                       ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-01 12:54                                                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-08-06 21:45                                                           ` Johannes Berg
2008-08-06 22:05                                                             ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-06 22:31                                                           ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-07 11:13                                                             ` mac80211 aggregation (was: iwlwifi aggregation info) Johannes Berg
2008-08-07 12:21                                                               ` Friedrich.Beckmann
2008-08-07 12:31                                                                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-08-07 13:00                                                                   ` Friedrich.Beckmann
2008-07-30 12:01                               ` iwlwifi aggregation info Tomas Winkler

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