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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Tomas Winkler <tomasw@gmail.com>
Cc: Friedrich.Beckmann@infineon.com, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, j@w1.fi
Subject: Re: iwlwifi aggregation info
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:45:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1218059104.23048.81.camel@johannes.berg> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1217595279.8621.38.camel@johannes.berg> (sfid-20080801_145449_897169_666FF62E)

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> When that is not the case, however, we disagree. I think that because
> aggregation isn't a QoS mechanism, it should behave the same way as in
> the case where no stations have aggregation enabled, and stall the whole
> queue. On the other hand, you think it is a QoS mechanism, and let
> streams for the fast stations be interleaved with the slow station,
> leaving only frames for the slow station piling up.

I just found IEEE 802.11-2007 subclause 9.10 which actually explains all
the block-ack business without aggregation, but I assume that
aggregation now just means that instead of sending
	mpdu + sifs + (mpdu + sifs)* + blockackreq
you send simply
	a-mpdu

I see nothing in 9.10 that supports the view that aggregation/block-ack
should create a new traffic stream.

johannes

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-06 21:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-29 11:32 iwlwifi aggregation info Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 11:36 ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 12:25   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-29 12:27     ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 12:35       ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-29 12:53         ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 13:04           ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-29 13:07             ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 13:18               ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-29 13:23                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 13:43                   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-29 13:46                     ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 14:06                       ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-29 14:21                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-29 15:55                           ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-30  9:53                             ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-30 11:03                               ` Friedrich.Beckmann
2008-07-30 13:19                                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-30 13:45                                   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-30 13:50                                     ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-30 13:59                                       ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-30 15:19                                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-30 16:08                                           ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-31 13:05                                             ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-31 18:14                                               ` Tomas Winkler
2008-07-31 18:23                                                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-07-31 19:16                                                   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-01 12:09                                                     ` Johannes Berg
2008-08-01 12:40                                                       ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-01 12:54                                                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-08-06 21:45                                                           ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2008-08-06 22:05                                                             ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-06 22:31                                                           ` Tomas Winkler
2008-08-07 11:13                                                             ` mac80211 aggregation (was: iwlwifi aggregation info) Johannes Berg
2008-08-07 12:21                                                               ` Friedrich.Beckmann
2008-08-07 12:31                                                                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-08-07 13:00                                                                   ` Friedrich.Beckmann
2008-07-30 12:01                               ` iwlwifi aggregation info Tomas Winkler

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