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From: Ria Thomas <ria.thomas@morsemicro.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, lachlan.hodges@morsemicro.com,
	arien.judge@morsemicro.com, pradeep.reddy@morsemicro.com,
	simon@morsemicro.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH wireless-next v2 1/3] wifi: cfg80211: Add support for S1G Response Indication Configuration
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2026 11:01:59 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260116053159.kvhpcp7jtrilb4ar@1207> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <048c2715d08822d7f79b082cbe332f982d8ced61.camel@sipsolutions.net>

On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 09:50:44AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> 
> Actually, reading the spec, are you sure it's even on an *interface*
> scope? A lot of this seems to me like it should be per intended
> receiver, and you need to know its capabilities for generating the
> intended response?
> 

After reviewing the IEEE 802.11ah specification and correlating it with
the WFA HaLow certification tests, it is clear that Response Indication
is not intended to be a per-receiver or per-peer configuration.

Per IEEE Std 802.11-2024, 10.3.2.17, Response Indication is a
TXVECTOR parameter set by the transmitting MAC entity (AP or STA)
to advertise the expected response type for a specific PPDU and to
protect the corresponding response PPDU expected SIFS later. As a
TXVECTOR parameter, Response Indication is selected for each
transmission and applies at the PPDU level; it is not defined
as persistent state associated with a specific peer STA.

The selection of a Response Indication value is governed by
the established BSS context and the protocol rules defined by
the standard for when a response is expected, rather than by
any explicit per-peer Response Indication capability negotiation.

Accordingly, the implementation treats Response Indication as a
per-interface (per MAC/VIF) transmit configuration, applied when
constructing the TXVECTOR for each PPDU. Response Indication therefore
remains a local, per-transmission decision, governed by the applicable
protocol rules and operating context, rather than by persistent per-receiver
configuration.

I hope this clarifies the rationale behind the current approach.
I am happy to discuss further if there are specific scenarios you would
like to examine.

Ria

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-16  5:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-09  6:24 [PATCH wireless-next v2 0/3] wifi: add S1G response indication configuration with NDP BA support Ria Thomas
2025-12-09  6:24 ` [PATCH wireless-next v2 1/3] wifi: cfg80211: Add support for S1G Response Indication Configuration Ria Thomas
2026-01-08 12:27   ` Johannes Berg
2026-01-09  4:00     ` Ria Thomas
2026-01-13  8:50       ` Johannes Berg
2026-01-16  5:31         ` Ria Thomas [this message]
2026-02-06  6:11         ` Ria Thomas
2026-02-06  7:57           ` Johannes Berg
2026-02-12  8:43             ` Ria Thomas
2026-02-17 11:41               ` Johannes Berg
2025-12-09  6:24 ` [PATCH wireless-next v2 2/3] wifi: mac80211: track S1G Response Indication (RI) and notify drivers Ria Thomas
2025-12-09  6:24 ` [PATCH wireless-next v2 3/3] wifi: mac80211: add support for NDP ADDBA/DELBA for S1G Ria Thomas

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