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From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Nicolai Stange <nicstange@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 6.7.0-rc1 + hacks deadlock bug, wifi netdev delete + cat of debugfs file.
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2023 09:44:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <21a4b983-1d5c-8c76-0994-d8a43285b19d@candelatech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0cfd8ae0577e52fe8db41dbfb37ee5197a1857d6.camel@sipsolutions.net>

On 11/8/23 08:07, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 07:55 -0800, Ben Greear wrote:
>> On 11/8/23 7:44 AM, Johannes Berg wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 07:07 -0800, Ben Greear wrote:
>>>> On 11/8/23 2:31 AM, Johannes Berg wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 2023-11-07 at 14:08 -0800, Ben Greear wrote:
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this lockup is because iw is holding rtnl and wiphy mutex,
>>>>>> and is blocked waiting for debugfs to be closed.  Another 'cat'
>>>>>> program has debugfs file open, and is blocking on trying to acquire
>>>>>> wiphy mutex.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we must not acquire wiphy mutex in debugfs methods, somehow,
>>>>>> to resolve this deadlock.  I do not know a safe way to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm. I almost want to say "don't do that then", but I guess you're just
>>>>> randomly accessing debugfs files.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess we can at least make the mutex acquisition in debugfs killable
>>>>> (or interruptible), so you can recover from this.
>>>>
>>>> If we can detect that the phy is going away in debugfs, then we could
>>>> return early before attempting the lock?  That would catch most things,
>>>> I guess,
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think it would, it would still get locked on the mutex first.
>>>
>>>>    but still a potential race since I guess we'd have to do that check
>>>> w/out locks.  Can we do a try-mutex-lock, if not acquired, return if wiphy-going-away,
>>>> else sleep a bit, try again?
>>>
>>> That's kind of awful though? And it's not just the wiphy going away, a
>>> lot of the debugfs files can go away individually (per station, per
>>> link, per key even!).
>>
>>   From the backtrace in the removal logic, it seems that something waits
>> for a debugfs file to be closed.
> 
> Yes, debugfs remove waits for it to no longer have active users, but
> that cannot succeed because the users are blocked on acquiring the
> mutex.
> 
>> Maybe the logic attempting to get the
>> mutex in debugfs can check if file is waiting to be deleted,
>> combined with a try-mutex-lock logic, and bail out that way?
> 
> I don't know if there's a way to check that, but I'm also not sure how
> you'd even implement that?

This code is new to me, but we have a file object in debugfs callbacks,
and this method appears to get dentry from a file object:

static inline struct dentry *file_dentry(const struct file *file)
{
	return d_real(file->f_path.dentry, file_inode(file));
}


In the delete path, we have a dentry object:

void debugfs_remove(struct dentry *dentry)
{
	if (IS_ERR_OR_NULL(dentry))
		return;

	simple_pin_fs(&debug_fs_type, &debugfs_mount, &debugfs_mount_count);
	simple_recursive_removal(dentry, remove_one);
	simple_release_fs(&debugfs_mount, &debugfs_mount_count);
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(debugfs_remove);


We could add a wiphy_trylock method, similar to this:

static inline void wiphy_lock(struct wiphy *wiphy)
         __acquires(&wiphy->mtx)
{
         mutex_lock(&wiphy->mtx);
         __acquire(&wiphy->mtx);
}


But using mutex_trylock instead.


This method appears to actually set a S_DEAD flag in the dentry, so maybe
we just check that flag in the mutex_trylock failed to acquire path
in the debugfs read?

void simple_recursive_removal(struct dentry *dentry,
                               void (*callback)(struct dentry *))
{
	struct dentry *this = dget(dentry);
	while (true) {
		struct dentry *victim = NULL, *child;
		struct inode *inode = this->d_inode;

		inode_lock(inode);
		if (d_is_dir(this))
			inode->i_flags |= S_DEAD;


Let me know what you think on that...

Thanks,
Ben

> 
> johannes
> 

-- 
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Candela Technologies Inc  http://www.candelatech.com



  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-08 17:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-07 22:08 6.7.0-rc1 + hacks deadlock bug, wifi netdev delete + cat of debugfs file Ben Greear
2023-11-08 10:31 ` Johannes Berg
2023-11-08 15:07   ` Ben Greear
2023-11-08 15:44     ` Johannes Berg
2023-11-08 15:55       ` Ben Greear
2023-11-08 16:07         ` Johannes Berg
2023-11-08 17:39           ` Benjamin Berg
2023-11-08 17:46             ` Ben Greear
2023-11-08 17:44           ` Ben Greear [this message]
2023-11-08 18:43             ` Johannes Berg
2023-11-08 20:04               ` Ben Greear
2023-11-08 20:06                 ` Johannes Berg
2023-11-08 16:21       ` Johannes Berg

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