From: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
Cc: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, liam@infradead.org, mhocko@suse.com,
rppt@kernel.org, vbabka@suse.cz, willy@infradead.org
Subject: Re: Process (was Re: [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP) collapse support
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2026 14:55:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <07334dc3-79ba-407e-96be-21ceb2eec00a@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b5b1a7bf-de6a-488a-a011-673c37bd24d1@kernel.org>
On 6/2/26 13:31, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
>>> learn from obviously) against how mm works in practice.
>>>
>>> High review load with many overlapping changes might favour a different approach
>>> to a subsystem that looks different from that.
>> Yeah, but as we said, we discussed, it's all rather complicated and we should
>> move incrementally.
>>
>
> Starting to read Documentation/process/maintainer-tip.rst, it's very interesting:
>
> “The tip tree is both a direct development tree and and an aggregation tree for
> several sub-maintainer trees.”
>
> “In general, development against the head of the tip tree master branch is fine,
I don't think we'll be able to use this part as mm-next will be only an
aggreggation tree and not also a direct development tree.
> but for the subsystems which are maintained separately, have their own git tree
> and are only aggregated into the tip tree, development should take place against
> the relevant subsystem tree or branch.”
So it would have to be this.
As it might be hard for contributors to pick the right one (as Lorenzo
pointed out), we might in general suggest they try developing against rc1
first (which is the common base of all subsystem trees), then either it
applies to one of the subsystem trees as-is, or it applies as a topic branch
(which starts also on the rc1 base) with reasonable conflict resolution
during merge, or we tell them which exising subtree/branch to rebase on.
> “Bug fixes which target mainline should always be applicable against the
> mainline kernel tree. Potential conflicts against changes which are already
> queued in the tip tree are handled by the maintainers.”
Ack.
> So, yeah, let me reach out to understand what works, what doesn't work, and how
> it works :)
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-02 12:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-22 14:59 [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 01/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 02/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 03/14] mm/khugepaged: rework max_ptes_* handling with helper functions Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:16 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 13:26 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 04/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:24 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 14:39 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 14:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 05/14] mm/khugepaged: require collapse_huge_page to enter/exit with the lock dropped Nico Pache
2026-06-01 14:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 10:26 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 06/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:47 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 14:42 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-31 9:39 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 20:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 3:28 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 6:54 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 7:49 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 8:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 8:44 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 10:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 9:08 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 10:23 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 10:47 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 11:13 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 15:00 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 15:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 16:07 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-02 15:30 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 16:34 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 07/14] mm/khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 08/14] mm/khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics Nico Pache
2026-05-31 20:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 14:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 09/14] mm/khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 10/14] mm/khugepaged: introduce collapse_allowable_orders helper function Nico Pache
2026-05-31 20:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 14:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 14:40 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 11/14] mm/khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-25 14:15 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-25 19:10 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-26 6:57 ` Wei Yang
2026-05-26 12:07 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-28 8:42 ` Wei Yang
2026-05-28 17:11 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-31 7:18 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 8:48 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 12:01 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 12:06 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 10:58 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 15:44 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 8:11 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 12:40 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 13:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 17:23 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 17:26 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 12/14] mm/khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2026-05-31 7:31 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 20:02 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 1:53 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 13/14] mm/khugepaged: run khugepaged for all orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 14/14] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 12:00 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-26 14:45 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:07 ` [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:13 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-05-22 16:11 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:13 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 8:33 ` Process (was Re: [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP) " Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-26 19:09 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-26 20:42 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-05-31 19:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 15:41 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 15:45 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 16:16 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 11:20 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 11:31 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 12:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 12:55 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) [this message]
2026-06-02 13:01 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 17:31 ` Mike Rapoport
2026-06-02 12:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 12:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 12:47 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-02 12:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 13:08 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-02 13:16 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-03 1:48 ` SeongJae Park
2026-06-01 15:37 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 15:43 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 15:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 16:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:16 ` [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP " Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 16:08 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 16:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 16:31 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 17:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-26 8:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 20:47 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-01 15:58 ` Alexander Gordeev
2026-06-01 17:05 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 17:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 1:53 ` Lance Yang
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