From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>,
Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, liam@infradead.org, mhocko@suse.com,
vbabka@suse.cz, willy@infradead.org
Subject: Re: Process (was Re: [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP) collapse support
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2026 20:31:42 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ah8Tflgn50DTMvwl@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <07334dc3-79ba-407e-96be-21ceb2eec00a@kernel.org>
On Tue, Jun 02, 2026 at 02:55:30PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> On 6/2/26 13:31, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >>> learn from obviously) against how mm works in practice.
> >>>
> >>> High review load with many overlapping changes might favour a different approach
> >>> to a subsystem that looks different from that.
> >> Yeah, but as we said, we discussed, it's all rather complicated and we should
> >> move incrementally.
> >>
> >
> > Starting to read Documentation/process/maintainer-tip.rst, it's very interesting:
> >
> > “The tip tree is both a direct development tree and and an aggregation tree for
> > several sub-maintainer trees.”
> >
> > “In general, development against the head of the tip tree master branch is fine,
>
> I don't think we'll be able to use this part as mm-next will be only an
> aggreggation tree and not also a direct development tree.
>
> > but for the subsystems which are maintained separately, have their own git tree
> > and are only aggregated into the tip tree, development should take place against
> > the relevant subsystem tree or branch.”
>
> So it would have to be this.
> As it might be hard for contributors to pick the right one (as Lorenzo
> pointed out), we might in general suggest they try developing against rc1
> first (which is the common base of all subsystem trees), then either it
> applies to one of the subsystem trees as-is, or it applies as a topic branch
> (which starts also on the rc1 base) with reasonable conflict resolution
> during merge, or we tell them which exising subtree/branch to rebase on.
Unless we carry semi-baked work through merge window *, at rc1 all trees
anyway restart the cycle.
So basing new work on rc1 is very reasonable choice. Once that work is
merged it will be merged to a particular sub-tree. Even patchsets that
touch files across the trees still will be merged to a single sub-tree.
And once a patches is merged it's clear what should be the base for the
work that builds on top of that patchest.
Obviously there would be conflicts when sub-trees are merged into the
integration tree, but that's maintainers responsibility to resolve them
IMHO.
* Supposing we keep the model of early merging for testing [Lorenzo, don't
yell at me ;-)] I think it's reasonable enough to drop everything that's
not going upstream at, say, rc6 and ask contributors to rinse and repeat
after rc1.
> > “Bug fixes which target mainline should always be applicable against the
> > mainline kernel tree. Potential conflicts against changes which are already
> > queued in the tip tree are handled by the maintainers.”
>
> Ack.
+1
--
Sincerely yours,
Mike.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-02 17:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-22 14:59 [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 01/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 02/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 03/14] mm/khugepaged: rework max_ptes_* handling with helper functions Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:16 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 13:26 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 14:59 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 04/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:24 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 14:39 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 14:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 05/14] mm/khugepaged: require collapse_huge_page to enter/exit with the lock dropped Nico Pache
2026-06-01 14:07 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 10:26 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 06/14] mm/khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:47 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 14:42 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-31 9:39 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 20:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 3:28 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 6:54 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 7:49 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 8:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 8:44 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 10:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 9:08 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 10:23 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 10:47 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 11:13 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 15:00 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 15:05 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 16:07 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-02 15:30 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 16:34 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 07/14] mm/khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 08/14] mm/khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics Nico Pache
2026-05-31 20:09 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 14:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 09/14] mm/khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 10/14] mm/khugepaged: introduce collapse_allowable_orders helper function Nico Pache
2026-05-31 20:18 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 14:35 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 14:40 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 11/14] mm/khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-25 14:15 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-25 19:10 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-26 6:57 ` Wei Yang
2026-05-26 12:07 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-28 8:42 ` Wei Yang
2026-05-28 17:11 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-31 7:18 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 8:48 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 12:01 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 12:06 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 10:58 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 15:44 ` Lance Yang
2026-06-01 8:11 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 12:40 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 13:15 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 17:23 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-02 17:26 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 12/14] mm/khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2026-05-31 7:31 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-31 20:02 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 1:53 ` Lance Yang
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 13/14] mm/khugepaged: run khugepaged for all orders Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:00 ` [PATCH mm-unstable v18 14/14] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 12:00 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-26 14:45 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:07 ` [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2026-05-22 15:13 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-05-22 16:11 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 21:13 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-26 8:33 ` Process (was Re: [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP) " Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-26 19:09 ` Andrew Morton
2026-05-26 20:42 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-05-31 19:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 15:41 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 15:45 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 16:16 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 11:20 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 11:31 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 12:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 12:55 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-02 13:01 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 17:31 ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2026-06-02 12:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 12:49 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 12:47 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-02 12:58 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-02 13:08 ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-02 13:16 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-03 1:48 ` SeongJae Park
2026-06-01 15:37 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 15:43 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-06-01 15:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-01 16:00 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:16 ` [PATCH mm-hotfixes-unstable v18 00/14] khugepaged: add mTHP " Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 16:08 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 16:19 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 16:31 ` Nico Pache
2026-05-22 17:12 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-26 8:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 15:13 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-05-22 20:47 ` Andrew Morton
2026-06-01 15:58 ` Alexander Gordeev
2026-06-01 17:05 ` Nico Pache
2026-06-01 17:08 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-06-02 1:53 ` Lance Yang
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