From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:22:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080427112256.GA23139@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080426.230807.144232984.davem@davemloft.net>
* David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:59:43 +0200
>
> > ... as i saw no reason why this feature, which i found rather
> > useful, should be delayed another year or so. I'd be more than happy
> > to promote this feature back to lib/Kconfig.debug, sparc64 interest
> > would make that a strong argument.
>
> So you caved in to FUD in order to pad your commit and signoff count?
>
> Because anyone who is paying attention can see clearly that you're
> trying to push as much stuff as quickly as possible into Linus's tree
> with your singoffs and authorship on it this merge window.
>
> Gee, I wonder why...
That suggestion is ridiculous but i guess i have to reply to it.
Firstly, i've been given more credit in Linux already than is enough for
a lifetime ;-) 1000+ changes down the line the joy of having yet another
commit upstream is ... minimal. I'm more interested in seeing Linux
progress as a whole and most of my pride goes towards the whole
structure not towards individual changes.
Secondly, you dont even have to take my word on this one. Was there even
a shred of truth to the claim above i'd surely must have split up this
recent x86 commit into many small commits:
| commit a4928cffe6435caf427ae673131a633c1329dbf3
| Author: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
| Date: Wed Apr 23 13:20:56 2008 +0200
|
| "make namespacecheck" fixes
|
| Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
arch/x86/kernel/apic_32.c | 2 +-
arch/x86/kernel/apic_64.c | 4 ++--
arch/x86/kernel/process_32.c | 2 +-
arch/x86/kernel/process_64.c | 2 +-
arch/x86/kernel/setup_32.c | 4 ++--
arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c | 12 ++++++------
arch/x86/kernel/tlb_64.c | 2 +-
arch/x86/kernel/vsyscall_64.c | 2 +-
arch/x86/mm/dump_pagetables.c | 2 +-
arch/x86/mm/pageattr.c | 2 +-
arch/x86/mm/srat_64.c | 2 +-
include/asm-x86/smp.h | 1 -
include/asm-x86/tsc.h | 1 -
13 files changed, 18 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
i could have made that 13 separate commits - as it is done with these
kinds of commits all around the tree (networking included, see commit
263173af).
Right?
And i routinely backmerge my fixlets into the body of the patch. In the
current merge window alone:
$ earth4:~/v> git-log v2.6.25.. | grep ' \[ mingo@elte'
[ mingo@elte.hu: minor cleanups. ]
[ mingo@elte.hu: redesign, splitups, cleanups. ]
[ mingo@elte.hu: heavily modified, simplified and cleaned up. ]
[ mingo@elte.hu: do it on gbpages kernels too, there's no clear reason
> [ mingo@elte.hu: build fix ]
[ mingo@elte.hu: build fix ]
[ mingo@elte.hu: fix boot regression. ]
[ mingo@elte.hu: x86: fix the pagetable dumper ]
... without creating a separate commit for the fixes.
But it's more than that: in fact i change the code in the _majority of
commits_ that i accept (various minor errors are very common), without
creating small fixlets. Most of the patches have to be edited trivially
for one or another reason - and that's just the code portion - 99% of
the commit messages of them has to be edited, most of them
substantially.
So if i were creating commits for each of those edits we'd have ~500-600
more trivial commits in this merge window alone. And i know you do this
fix backmerging too and it's the correct maintenance practice IMO.
As an example for this practice, look at the current raw, unprocessed,
not-yet-backmerged ftrace tree that i just posted to lkml. It has 34
commits from me:
> > Ingo Molnar (34):
about 30 of those commits will go away completely by the time i post
that for upstream.
So not only is that claim patently untrue, it's the _exact opposite_ of
what i'm doing day to day.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-27 11:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-27 4:55 CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING David Miller
2008-04-27 5:59 ` CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING Ingo Molnar
2008-04-27 6:08 ` CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING David Miller
2008-04-27 8:20 ` CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING Ingo Molnar
2008-04-27 9:10 ` CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING SL Baur
2008-04-27 9:16 ` CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING Dave Airlie
2008-04-27 9:21 ` CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING David Miller
2008-04-27 12:13 ` CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING Ingo Molnar
2008-04-27 11:22 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2008-04-27 17:25 ` CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING Pavel Machek
2008-04-28 10:42 ` CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING Adrian Bunk
2008-04-27 6:26 ` CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING Christoph Hellwig
2008-04-27 10:56 ` CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING Sam Ravnborg
2008-04-27 6:02 ` CONFIG_OPTIMIZE_INLINING Sam Ravnborg
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